OT: Who do you vote for?

To be fair. Milton Friedman is cool. My economic policies put me to the right. I love all people, I just want to make you all rich too

 

I'm a proud citizen of the Geordie Nation

 

I'm all for the encouragement and celebration of success, what ****s me off is that this often becomes blurred with the acceptance of greed!

If you worked for McDonalds and it suddenly you got a pay-rise (you work in demanding environment where you risk being burned by hot oil or abused by drunken people) within a year you'd be used to it and come to expect it, more importantly you'd believe you DESERVE it, if your wage then gets dropped down to its original limit, you'd be disgusted....

Now replace McDonalds with 'RBS' and change pay-rise to 'millions pound bonus'!

 

I see what you mean however this is what happens in a capitalist society. However can you name me a better system to work with. Socialism and Communism have proven to be extremely flawed (look at the state of the countries that use those ideologies). We need a free market. Supply and demand are at the hub of everything. However I am open to new ideas and if a revolutionary came up with a new theory, I would look into it

 

Technology in the coming century will be a huge catalyst in founding new forms of government I think. I can imagine a trend towards catering for the individual based on their own specific beliefs rather than the entire state as the population is even higher and as more working roles are passed over for technology to take care of.

 

I watched this recently, seems like a good thread to chuck it in [video=youtube;Gw8LPn4irao]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gw8LPn4irao[/video]

Slightly O/T. Anyone read Stewart Wee's review of that new Thatcher film? Pretty much sums it up for me.

 

Economists say that eventually (within the next 100 years I think), the worlds population will start to decline and this will happen in the west first!

That is,however, a very interesting point that you made and not something I had thought of. Of course, when I say free market, it will never be totally free. The government always has its hand in the cookie jar and will serve to protect its best interests. People losing jobs to technology will never happen on a massive scale purely because of this.

 

Interesting, I didn't realise there would be a decline within the next century - but it figures that the west would decrease first when you look at the up and coming superpowers now.

 

They reckon it's going to stabilise at about 8 billion in roughly 2050, particularly if India and Africa industrialise. Industrialised countries always have lower birth-rates, for all kinds of reasons, such as lower infant mortality, higher % of women in work, more to do (i.e. mummy and daddy can do more leisure activities that cost money rather than just shagging all the time), and loads of stuff like that.

Am I the only one who's pissed off at HS2 (the high speed rail thing) only going to Birmingham? I'm all for it, but I wish it was coming our way. We need it more. In fact, some reckon we should have done what John Prescott said, and built high-speed rail between Glasgow, Edinburgh, Newcastle, Leeds and Manchester first. Connect up the economically struggling North, and then try to connect up the south.

 

Don't let TJR and East Stand ever become mods. They are the Stalin and Mugabe of this place

 

Conservative. Although none of the parties accurately represent my views at all, none are ''liberal'' enough in any sense of the word in short.

 

Tony Blair takes a lot of stick, but during his tenure he created the fairest society that I have known in my life time...
The Tories, by their very nature will always create more wealth for the rich at the expense of the poor.

 

Tony Blair also encouraged people to go to University and left them with less options when they came out, still rather have him than Thatcher or Cameron (who is also partially to blame for this).

 

Tony Blair is one of the best PM's this country has ever had (despite me being a Tory)

 

He is one of the best orators ever and how he managed to stay in power after joining two of the most unpopular wars in history is a testament to that. However he also managed to get so many people into Uni that the market is completely over saturated with people who have useless degrees and created loads of ''fake'' jobs in the public sector which could not be sustained. For all the creating of a fairer society he supposedly did it's come at a massive cost.

 

I can't but I would vote Conservative and have a monthly direct debit (only £5) to them instead.

Has a huge impact on where I live.

Having said that I may cancel as they're trying to screw us over and whoever is dealing with those issues in particular is clearly small minded. It will just damage the Channel Islands and is targeted, the business will only move to another location IE IOM, Cypruss, Zurich etc.

 

Enter the welfare state.

Those 12 years brought the country to it's knees.

Queue the Conservatives removing fake jobs and looking like the baddies. Trying to stimulate the private sector to create more and still looking like baddies because they're "evil" capitalists.

 

I don't know what your damn problem is!

 

Its quite funny when you think about it...For so many of us, myself included - the overall good matters little if our backs are being scratched!

 

The UK's finances were in a very healthy state for most of Labour's time in office...It was/is the capatalists who gamble with our money who were/are responsible for the mess the global economy finds itself in at this present time. However, these people are still lining their pockets whilst the bill is being picked up by the working classes.