This isn't a quick knee jerk reaction as the Wenger deluded brigade would like to say, but a question based on a long line of results and seasons, should Wenger go by the end of the season? Even if we end up 4th, do you think he should still go? My answer is a positive yes, Wenger has obviously taken us as far as he can, it's quite clear that we have greatly regressed as a team, the fact we are now struggling to get into the top 4 is a simple confirmation of that fact, and even if we do get 4th spot, since when was it a great achievement to be fighting for 4th spot? The very fact that we are a team fighting for 4th spot shows how far we have fallen off, from a team who used to win and challenge for the title, to a team fighting to make 4th spot, once again this is a major confirmation of how far we have regressed. This hasn't been going on for one season, but has been going on for the past 5 years, the only difference is that we are actually getting worse as this current season is proving. Bare in mind we moved into the Emirates stadium to precisely fight and consolidate our position as one of the top teams in England, we were already a top team with our bare limited resources at Highbury, so the Emirates was meant to push us even further and finally be able to establish us as a top top side. We pay the highest ticket prices in England, we didn't do all of this to be stuck in 5th position to be fighting for 4th spot, all the more confirmation of how far we have regressed. People say well if Wenger changes I want him to stay, yet it's clear that he is never going to change, he will persist in his ways, and again, the current rubbish state we are in is a clear testimony of that. So based on all of this put together, with the fact that Wenger will not and refuses to change, do you think it's time for a change? I personally do, I'm fed up with rubbish, I'm fed up with fighting for 4th spot, I'm fed up of hearing how ending up in 4th place is a success, i'm fed up of hearing how qualifying for the champions league year in year out is a success, i'm fed up of hearing how qualifying for the knockout stages of Europe is a success, i'm fed up of hearing about our successful econamic financial situation which we never bank on, i'm fed up of hearing about our future prospects which we have been hearing about for the past 6 seasons, we are a top team, and as such, we must be challenging for titles, and not only challenging, but winning titles too, end of story, and it's time to bring a manager who wants to win trophies instead of congratulating himself on ending up 4th and making a good financial situation for the club. The icing on the cake will actually be if we end up out of the top 4, as the wenger bridage and wenger himself will no longer even be able to use one of their most often repeated lines, oh we always qualify for europe, oh we always end up top 4, a great achievement to be proud of, all the more proof of why he needs to go, he's even failing by his own pitiful standards.
As Samir posted above, Gazidis, Kroenke and the board should go. It was their grand sustainable plan that this manager has bought into. Arsene seems unable to motivate this team. What worries me is that the inability to turn things round or getting them to hold onto a lead which sadly is nothing new.
I don't mind people claiming that wenger should go, but at least put forward a valid argument, who exactly would you have replace him? And be realistic. Also what players would you have the new manager buy to make the team better? My own personal opinion is that the players are hiding behind wenger and should take responsibility for the decline of the club. We seem to breed moaning, arrogant players who usually blame everyone but themselves, cesc and nasri being the prime example, they were part of the reason we won nothing, yet decided to jump ship claiming they wanted to win things instead of taking responsibility. Bear in mind we will not be able to sig people like hazard and Gotze, because we are not atractive enough and cant pay the wages.
Bring in Usmanov to replace Stan and the rest of his henchmen, at least usmanov wants to spend money and recognises that theres a problem at the club
Here is something from Wenger's post match interview: "it is difficult to understand what is going on" Sums it all up with Wenger really, he fails to see what's going on and why we are struggling, the man's become senile.
But he IS an honourable man - so will see out another 2 seasons. Has always maintained he has a contract. Arsenal's Board will have to move him 'upstairs'. That ain't gonna happen. So get used to it - he's at the helm for another 2 seasons at least.
I fear too that Gazidis is at the helm for at least that period if not longer. And what of our silent owner? There's a lot of deadwood associated with an N5 address.
by which time the 'library' will be known as the 'morgue'. RVP will not extend his contract - nobody apart from meal-ticket types will want to join us. Youth players will not want to come to us - Oxo might be the last sweet-talked by himself. The owner will sell out at a 100% profit.......
We have been completely sold out by the money men, hence my signature. They should be run out of town.
His departure is overdue , i wanted him out at the final whistle of the Carling cup final . Im not one to bear grudges , but losing the only chance of silver for 6 years to a team who subsequently got relegated was the writing on the wall .
Well I think we have missed out on two ideal names, Guus Hiddinck and Martin O'Neill. Of course they were only available at a time when we were doing reasonably well so under those circumstances there wouldn't have been cause for Arsene to go but had he gone earlier before we had our mini revival, perhaps those two names might have been under consideration while we ran with a caretaker Well the powers that be on the Arsenal board and this one will say that players are not available to buy. That the negotiating prowess post the Dein era has not been as effective is largely ignored. Mr Gazidis and Dick Law are below par performers. Like some of the deadwood on the pitch, they too should go. In the days of David Dein, we usually got the players we wanted. Right now we need and want a creative midfielder and a striker to back RvP. And while we are on the subject of players, perhaps a new manager may not have players put of position as we do under Arsene Wenger. I agree. The team's mental spirit has gone to pieces. They get sloppy as can be seen today. You would have thought that well-played professional players would know how to regroup unlike the half-baked, dreamy and clueless moments following our equaliser. I think though that they did mount a fightback but they were outplayed by a truly committed side. A Viera style of leader might have made the difference. Had Micky played, it might have been different. And why are we not attractive enough? It's because we have allowed ourselves to become second rate in not replacing departing stars with players of equal or better abilities. As far as wages is concerned, well that itself is another issue for debate. That our wages policy is badly structured is one thing but that in itself has also led to our inability or belief that we are unable to or should not pay top wages. Let me say too though that the wages aspect of football has gone out of control and the sooner it is regulated the better but even if we could compete, we won't because the money men of our club rather keep the money for themselves than invest for the future. At this rate, our future is seriously impaired.
A club having class and integrity is something money can't buy. I for one value those values and we will lose them if Usmanov takes over. As far as I am concerned relegation is preferable to a person like him being our boss.
I am a fan of wenger and believe that sacking him would be a seriously foolish mistake. The owners aren't helping him though and there doesnt seem to be a connection between wenger and the board the way there was when dein was there. The board is allowing wenger to go out and spend £30m on a player but then saying that he can't go and spend over £90,000 a week on wages, it doesn't add up and we are going to have to change our wage bill, get rid of people like chamakh squillaci and arshavin who are doing nothing but use up the club's funds and not offering anything on the field. The team isn't good enough, simple as that, when you lose fabregas and nasri and replace them with arteta and benayoun then you are going to have serious problems, its clear that we need to strengthen the team and bring in a top class attacking midfielder. Also i've had it with walcott, he isn't delivering anymore and oxo should definately be given a run in the team, also get arshavin out the team and as far away from a football pitch as possible, he offers nothing to the team and i can't understand why wenger keeps picking him, we would be better starting rosicky on the left till gervinho gets back. And when you see players like kalou mentioned as possible signings then your heart really does start to sink. We are so lucky that liverpool are inconsistent as are chelsea although they were lucky to get three points yesterday. We need to go and get aly cissoko from lyon at full back and i'm not kind of resigned to having to wait til the summer for goetze or hazard. If we can get wilshere back to fitness and get sagna and tv back aswell as gervinho then we will be pushing for a top 4 place without a doubt but looking at our team today is very worrying and swansea out-played us today, we held onto the ball too long and didn't dictate possession, we clearly haven't kept the ball as well since those 2 left in the summer and we need to go back to what we know best, which is moving the ball fast and dominating the game, next weekend is absolutely huge.
You say it's foolish to sack wenger, then go on to list the problems we are facing (average player), don't you note the irony, that it's Wenger who is the cause of the problems you list? Letting go of top top quality players and not bringing in solid replacements? Relying on rubbish like Chamakh and Squilachi. Who brought them in, and who continues to persist in playing them? The critique you give is the exact reason why Wenger should be sacked, he's brought in a whole load of sh!t players which has turned us into an average side.
It could be because the negotiating team of Gazidis and Law are so inept at sealing the deal to bring the players whom we would like to The Emirates that is also holding us back/ Then again that could be because they refuse to accept the reality of offering comparable salaries, in addition to their low ball laughable offers. Perhaps they prevent Wenger from bringing in the players we want so in terms of the cash they give him, all he can get are the likes of Squills and Chamakh. Buy One Get One Free - that sort of thing. We need change. Change at the top and if Wenger refuses to change tactics, then he too should consider that the club could be left behind. True fans like us do not rejoice in this.
