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CAMPAIGN: Expand and Stand - FSF Safe Standing Roadshow

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  1. westhulltiger

    westhulltiger Active Member

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    You would either buy a standing or seated ticket?
     
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  2. East_Stand_Always

    East_Stand_Always Active Member

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    Yeah but how do you stop someone turning up the stand to the standing area instead of sitting down. Think of this like a Leeds fan, they are sheep and follow each other everywhere. They won't understand the difference and then it will all kick off when the stewards try to stop them getting to the standing area, or standing in the seated area because they guys 4 rows back are all stood in the safe standing area.
     
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  3. Tigerned

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  4. westhulltiger

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    There would have to be a designated block/area of the stand that you can only get in if you have bought a standing ticket
     
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  5. Chiltons222

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    Copy of my letter to my MP which may help others with ideas.

    Dear David Davis,

    Standing Areas of Choice at Football Stadiums

    I don’t know if you are a football fan or a fan of any sport watched in
    a public stadium. If you are you may have visited a football stadium to
    watch a match between rivals and witnessed the intense atmosphere and
    enjoyment this brings.

    Fans used to stand throughout the matches, the close proximity of
    likeminded supporters engenders the ‘football songs’ which have always
    been a part of our culture, and indeed are copied now in most
    countries. But in the UK is still special.

    The atmosphere at games since all seater stadiums for football games
    where introduced (by law) has steadily been diluted and youngsters now
    have no idea how exciting it used to be. As a child I would walk home
    energised by the whole affair and that is what gave me a love of
    football. In some way sitting for 90 minutes inhibits singing and we
    are losing this ingredient of the game.

    What now happens in all seater stadiums is that some people do stand
    up, sometimes all the game and sometimes when a goal or other incident
    occurs. A lot of the time it’s a knee-jerk reaction and they cannot
    help it. This causes friction between supporters as those behind cannot
    see. Stewards police the areas but it is impossible to stop it all the
    time.

    In Europe, especially Germany an answer has been found which is to keep
    the stadium as an ‘all-seated’ one but have barriers in front between
    rows of seats, allowing those areas with this facility to be designated
    as ‘standing’ areas. Therefore you can have one or two stands with this
    facility or maybe part of a stand. It allows elderly people to sit down
    as necessary and at half time or before the game.

    Another crucial issue is cost. Stadiums often need to have an increase
    in capacity (if say the club move to a higher league etc) and at this
    point many stands have to be re-built at a massive cost. With the
    seat/barrier idea, the cost is much reduced and knew construction is
    not required. The capacity in a particular area can be increased by 50
    to 80%.

    Check http://www.safestandingroadshow.co.uk/myt hs for the busting of
    the ill-informed myths that safe standing would:- Discourage women, be
    harder to police, difficult to convert grounds, obstruct views etc.
    etc. and http://www.hullcityindependent.net/?...ws&news_id=832

    There is a campaign throughout football for some standing areas to
    return to the game. These areas can be safer than all seated areas. I
    would request that you give the campaign your full support.

    Yours sincerely,
     
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  6. PLT

    PLT Well-Known Member

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    Great letter but you should know that your 'Myths' link won't work because you've missed a couple of letters off. Change that before sending it unless you alreayd have.
     
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  7. Tigerned

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    Great letter. Would you mind a copy and paste campaign? Yes I am just being lazy and not the greatest writer, but I doubt it would be sent to same mp's as I am not in Hull
     
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  8. amberosia

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    Simple. The whole end is standing. Look at the German grounds, the whole end is seating or standing depending on the game, European or domestic. At dortmund one end is all standing and the other end is standing at the bottom and seating on the tier above. there is no way they are next to each other. You are making complications where none need exist.
    As for what you said about flow etc, surely if they can manage 25,000 behind one goal at Dortmund then surely managing 5-10,000 shouldn't beyond us at the KC.

    Have look at the link for German stadiums. It is worth nting that although cheap prices are often quoted for standing areas the top priced seats are often more than double ours despite the capacity of the ground being much higher than what the KC would be even with any increase in capacity so anyone thinking that an increased capacity is a surefire way of cheap prices all round is going to be disappointed.

    http://www.nflstadiumguide.com/germany.htm
     
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  9. Tigerned

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    Would be good if Kc became the prototype english stadium
     
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