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Salmonds low opinion of Scots

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Mind The Duck, Jan 11, 2012.

  1. Mind The Duck

    Mind The Duck Well-Known Member

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    Why is he determined to have a referendum in 2014?

    So he can convince us of the merits of independence for 2 years?

    Or

    The Braveheart effect

    The 700th anniversary of bannockburn is in 2014

    Are Scots as stupid as he thinks....will they vote on a whim because of this ancient battle?
     
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  2. Go G YellowScreen

    Go G YellowScreen Well-Known Member

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    No, we'll vote because that's when the vote will be <duh>
     
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  3. monacoger

    monacoger POTY 2021

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    What was the % of the last vote on independence, it was pretty convincing, was it not?
     
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  4. Otto Flayshow

    Otto Flayshow Well-Known Member

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    It was convincing in the sense that the majority of people felt so strongly that they couldn't be arsed voting. And there was only 3 channels on TV in those days. <ok>
     
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  5. Go G YellowScreen

    Go G YellowScreen Well-Known Member

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    Are you thinking of the devolution vote of 1979? The Government stipulated that 40 per cent of the electorate had to vote Yes for it to pass. Only something like 51 or 52 per cent voted and although there was a majority for the Yes vote it was considerably short of the 40 per cent required.
     
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  6. Mick

    Mick Probably won't answer PMs Staff Member

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    Scots low opinions of themselves. Half the Scottish people I quiz on the issue are convinced that England does a better job of managing Scotland than Scottish people could do themselves.
     
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  7. Ciaran

    Ciaran Going for 55

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    I wonder will it be a straight 50%+1 vote. Probably have it needing to get over 60% for it to pass. I am sure Salmond is hoping for a massive recovery in the European Union by 2014.
     
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  8. stopmeandslapme

    stopmeandslapme Well-Known Member

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    What do you think the outcome will be? I reckon you'll vote for independence.
     
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  9. Go G YellowScreen

    Go G YellowScreen Well-Known Member

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    It's not that simple. The Scottish electorate is a lot more sophisticated than most, hence how the voting patterns vary so widely between Holyrood and Westminster elections.

    The relationship between Scotland and England cannot be compared to the Anglo-Irish "accord". Besides the obvious fact we're physically attached, we share a thousand years of political, cultural and socio-economic policies and beliefs.

    I don't know how the independence vote will go. Polls point to a comfortable No victory. But then you look back at last year's Holyrood election result and see how well the SNP did. The big difference this time is that, whereas the SNP had more money and clout then, they will be up against the Westiminster and Holyrood parties this time.
     
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  10. monacoger

    monacoger POTY 2021

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    No, I'm thinking about when there were 2 votes in the one vote. Was it not one for independence and the other for parliament? In fact, I'm speaking ****, it was one for the parliament and the other for tax raising powers.
     
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  11. Go G YellowScreen

    Go G YellowScreen Well-Known Member

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    I'm saying nothing <laugh>
     
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  12. monacoger

    monacoger POTY 2021

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    A lot of SNP voters don't want independence though.
     
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  13. Null

    Null Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    As a "Scot" - what will you do?

    PS Salmond's a fat ****er! Bandwagon jumping bastard!
     
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  14. monacoger

    monacoger POTY 2021

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    Cheers, I think I might have gotten away with it!
     
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  15. ManDingo 20"/20"

    ManDingo 20"/20" MDMA Guru

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    Not exactly for it but the terms we are being "dictated" to hold it by are a joke really, how the UK government thinks it has any authority on the issue is beyond me, if we hold it and it turns out to be a win for independence what will they do? take us to a supreme court in a foreign land and sue us?

    Alex Salmond is a tit though, no argument there.
     
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  16. Magic Laudrup 11

    Magic Laudrup 11 Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Stereo still fetches Salmonds hourly greggs for him <ok>
     
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  17. Mick

    Mick Probably won't answer PMs Staff Member

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    Salmond is boxing clever at the minute in the argument, especially with the Tories coming out and saying that his proposals are not legal. The Tories are practically dead as a political force in Scotland with only one MP - I imagine a lot of Scottish people would take exception at an English Tory telling them what they can and can not do.

    If he manages to make this SNP separatist Nationalism vs Westminster driven Conservative Unionism then the Nationalists will win. It's all about whether Scottish Labour and Liberals can get their act together to seem as if they are driving the Unionist/No side from a Scottish front, rather than a Tory English public schoolboy dictating things from London.
     
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  18. gas

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    Yet on a pro rata basis there are more Scots serving in Westminster than any other UK nationality.

    The Scots rule England who in turn rule Scotland <double>
     
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  19. ManDingo 20"/20"

    ManDingo 20"/20" MDMA Guru

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    If we get independence feel free to keep them <ok>
     
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  20. Go G YellowScreen

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    Doesn't really make sense.
     
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