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  1. Depay Sound

    Depay Sound Well-Known Member

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    Where were you when Newcastle got a point at Old Trafford thanks to wrongly being given a penalty?

    Where were you when Welbeck had a goal wrongly disallowed this season?

    Where have you been when Man Utd have been denied several blatant penalties this season?


    I bet none of you were complaining when any of the above occurred. Hypocrites.
     
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  2. Zingy

    Zingy #ziggywould

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    Of course not, we were laughing! <laugh><laugh><laugh>
     
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  3. Daveunited

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    what about Hernandez at Stoke

    <whistle>
     
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  4. Zingy

    Zingy #ziggywould

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    Cracking backwards header? That's all I remember froma Stoke - Utd game. <ok>
     
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  5. Daveunited

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    What a goal that was,but obviously from last season

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  6. Constcrepe

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    And Arsenal are?
     
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  7. SAMOC

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    then why are you here
     
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  8. Swarbs

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    You appear to be confusing us with City and Chelsea.

    Remind me how much we paid for Giggs, Scholes, Welbeck, Cleverley, Fletcher and Evans? We have more academy players than we do £25m players <ok>
     
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  9. Ivor Biggun

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    Such a shame both those teams will strengthen this January window, what with them needing it...

    Oh wait! they can't. City have already ruled out spending any-more because their broke and Chelsea are in dire need of an overhaul.

    From next season onwards expect United to be the team to be doing all the big signings.
     
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  10. Swarbs

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    Apart from Evans, Welbeck and Cleverley. Which is one more than Arsenal have in the past ten years <ok>

    The fact our success keeps making money for us to spend on quality players doesn't stop us continuing to develop quality from our own academy.
     
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  11. theevilreddevil

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    should have had a penalty to make it 4-1 had we scored, people are quick to forget that because its united
     
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  12. Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction

    Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction Well-Known Member

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    I have already explained to you how you can have no complaints about the Newcastlw game as Rooney should have walked long before any incident for his assault on Coloccini. Newcastle have more reason to feel hard done by.
     
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  13. shaxi

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    take it easy ! don't be so serious !

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  14. joseshivers

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    Wow who were all those people on here yesterday then?
     
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  15. TuckersLaw

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    Interesting point but it doesn't take stock of the fact that since 2007 our net spend is apparently less than that of Hull, Burnley and Blackpool (as stated in todays Telegraph).

    The fact is that while they remain some expensive players in our squad, we can still field a team of;

    Lindegaard - £3.5m
    Fabio
    Evans
    Smalling - £8m (could have been O'Shea or Brown here upto last season)
    Rafael

    Giggs or Scholes
    Fletcher
    Cleverly
    Gibson

    Welbeck
    Owen

    Outside that, there are additions like Hernandez, Park, Evra and Vidic who cost modest amounts. Of the additions that can be labelled expensive; Ferdinand, Rooney will/have offered great value over the course of their careers, De Gea, Jones and Young, should be a fixture for years to come, Carrick has been a mainstay, Anderson, Nani and Valencia have their best years ahead of them.

    I hardly think it is fair to say we have £25m players in each position.
     
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  16. TuckersLaw

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    Like who?

    Rafael and Fabio cost modest amounts. Smalling cost somewhere between £8-10m. Who else is there? Of the recent crop, Jones and Young joined us to win trophies rather than join the perpetual Arsenal reconstruction project.
     
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  17. Swarbs

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    Except we only have three £25 million players and only one of those was bought in the last seven years. And your decision not to spend is not because you can't afford it - you have more money in the bank than we do right now. It is due to your manager's view that spending a little bit of money and reaching the top four is better than spending a lot of money and winning trophies.

    He'd also rather fill his squad with average £10 million players like Walcott, Koscielny, Arshavin, Mertesacker, Arteta, Gervinho and Chamberlain rather than actually try and buy top class players. Even when Utd had very little money available to spend around the late 80s and 90s, SAF still recognised that it was better to buy a few expensive top class players like Pallister, Keane, Cantona, Cole and Yorke then bring young players through into the gaps, rather than have just one world class player and a nice big bank balance.
     
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  18. Swarbs

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    Bollocks do you not have enough money. After selling Fabregas and Nasri you had over £160 million in the bank, only £22 million of which was earmarked to pay interest. Your manager just prefers spending £10 million on an average player rather than £20 million on a good player. He's happy with mediocrity.

    As for Arsenal bringing players through, Wilshere is the only good player to have come out of your academy since Ashley Cole - most of your good youth players have been bought. In contrast, we've filled the gaps in our squad with Evans (free), Fletcher (free), Welbeck (free), Scholes (free), Rafael (£1.5m), Fabio (£1.5m), Park (£5m), Owen (free), Lindegaard (£3.5m), Giggs (free), Macheda (free), Cleverley (free), Hernandez (£6m), and Gibson (free). I'd much rather have them that have been ripped off for the likes of Gervinho and Mertesacker cos you have no decent young players of your own.

    And your "team and a half" is just bullshit. Your record signing is Nasri for £16m. Only De Gea, Rio, Anderson, Carrick, Berbatov and Rooney cost more than him. Yes, our squad probably cost twice as much as your to assemble. But it is a damn sight better than yours <ok>
     
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  19. Gazautd

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    Here endeth the lesson..(I think Park was 4mill as well :smiley-finger007:)
     
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  20. Swarbs

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    It's not quite over yet...

    Arsenal's new £470 million stadium that is their biggest excuse for the past six years has been partly funded by the £100 million Emirates naming deal, and a hundred million or so from selling Highbury Square apartments. Net cost to the club around £260 million, funded by the sale of low interest secured bonds.

    Over the same period Utd have serviced over £500 million in high interest debt, with a cost more than twice that of Arsenal's. We also spend over £150 million expanding OT back from 1995 to 2006 (North Stand, West and East Stands, Quadrants). And yet we still won regular trophies over the same period and never one whined about how the cost of the stadium was dragging us down.

    No room for excuses in the Theatre of Dreams <ok>
     
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