Kompany was certainly a red. both men won the ball and the only issue was kompany never touched nani. this is more consistent than last years FA cup where gerrard jumped in with carrick and got there first which webb smiled gleefully as he pulled the red but then failed to do so with rafael after he stamped two footed on meireles who jumped out of the way. At least everyone should know not to ever go two footed at a tackle ever.
to be honest i dont see how everyone is arguing it should never be a red. It was a 2 footed lunge studs up, no matter how clean it was the rulebook says red
intent is not part of the law.. a ref can't judge intent in a split second but he can judge recklessness and seeing two feet go in can equate to recklessness so all players just have to learn never go in two footed and you'll be fine. After all you can break a guys leg with your shin and shin pad as easy as with studs so just gut the two footed stuff out and you should be not diving in as much. That's what spearing learns and he's lucky to even be getting a game at all seeing he blew his big chance and prob cost us 2 point at fulham (reina cost the other point)
I dont think it was a red, the refs are ruining football! I don't think that all two footed tackles should be clasified as dangerous as this one and Spearing clearly weren't. Look at Lampards challenge, that wasn't 2 footed so no action was taken however it was much more likely to have broken a leg. I think i would rather the odd bit of inconsistency that makes football football, than have consistently ruined games.
the refs merely do as they are told, if everyone would abide by the rules then there would not be an issue. the powers that be determine is dangerous so while we may not agree we can equally see that some tackles create terrible injuries and this is what they are trying to avoid. I think it is better if we have a clear unambiguous rule a ref can be firmly called on not enforcing so that we can get consistency rather than the ridiculous set up we have now on diving. refs have an out there were contact = no yellow yet guys can just stick a leg out to force contact then flop. I say give the refs the tools to go do the job then demand consistency, just don't dive in in the middle of the park where no such lunge is needed, pass the ball better yourself so its not life and death to get hold of it.
I haven't seen this Kompany incident as I missed some of yesterdays game. But what your all saying makes me think of Gerrard's red card against United in the third round last year.
Not even a foul and the reason he got sent off was because of Rooney running up to the ref waving a card but of course rooney does'nt cheat or dive because English player's would never do that.
I thought yea he lunged in with both feet but took the ball more with the inside, didn't even touch Nani! A stern warning and a yellow would have been sufficient I thought.
He is suspended for the next game right? Will be good for us as Kolo is gone to ACON as well meaning Lescott and Savic? Hopefully we come with a bit better gameplan this time and a bit more urgency and willingness to get forward in the attack.
I think no ref can be trusted with common sense.. you get the likes of webb in that home town favoritism he loves so well... with a cheeky grin to boot... no at least the ref was consistent and didn't favour the home side anyway! Kompany must get a 3 match ban for it and so will miss wednesay (unless he appeals) then wigan then spurs... if he appeals he'd prob end up missing our home return tie. all in all i'd rather take that out of it than some utd bias which there was none.
He's banned for 4 games as it is his second red of the season didn't like the way fergie was so pally with the ref when walking off the pitch - not saying there was any thing in it but it looked bad after a match with such a controversial decision
It was definitely a red. I'm just wondering if the FA will rescind it, due to him missing both Liverpool Carling Cup ties.
it ould be a good way for the fa to get thier own back for those statements after all... if andy townsend says it wasn't even a foul well... who are the fa to argue with that!
why would supporting rooney be a dilemma - they have already appealed his three game ban for the euros after a blatant kick at an opponent - they would of course prefer that kompany miss league games rather than league cup games
if this red card is rescinded i can see mick mc carthy throwing a wobbly - one of his players was banned for three games afetr a nonsense sending off - if they didn't rescind that card, they will probably give kompany an extra game for a frivolous appeal
well if rooney didnt mean it then surely the good grace would suggest if vincent didn't mean it he should be let off... that would actually be fair i suppose.
the word fair does not exist in the fa dictionary - rooney will probably ask for a 6 game ban as the tackle nearly made nani fall over
How about the ref being consistent is that game alone. Just after the red, giggs fouled someone by sliding in from behind, classic straight yellow- no card Carrick- very lucky not to receive two yellows but didn't even get one. Would a manu player have been sent off for the same offence?
