Or you lot on the high horses could remember that there are microphones at your grounds and woe betide that those gloating (and you are) ever admit that this goes on. The fact is the point highlighted by the OP are issues stemming from a much wider society struggle that is ever continuing. I can name 3 individuals on this thread who fit perfectly the quote "why it saddens me when it becomes a tool in petty club rivalry debates." Said posters do nothing but highlight themselves as low minded individuals.
Agree; they've realised the ramifications of dealing with the Suarez case badly. Too late for the poor Oldham lad but let's hope they understand now. Let's hope they now put petty rivalry aside and concentrate on kicking it out
Gloating, how? Our club has scummy fans like this aswell, ones that were accused with abusing Sturridge. So no, you are not the only ones . The kid from Oldham was brought to tears, it's disgraceful and stop being so touchy because he was a Liverpool fan. I do not believe the actions of your team helped the cause, wearing Suarez shirts on such a sensitive subject was wrong in my opinion and then for Liverpool to retract the appeal didn't exactly show strength did it? It's not Liverpool fans I'm aiming anything at, it's racists, read it properly.
Let's get the issue out in the open. It is Kick it Out, guys, not Hush it Up like some, not all, of the Liverpool posters think
ah so drogs thinks i would name him does he? well I am point out that the OP was talking about wider society and felt that was important and the OP was right not to talk about petty club rivalries that is why i pointed out that things get caught at other grounds while people whom i regard as low end wums (who i won't name to give them the kicks they want out fo their wumming) ) seem to want to take a moral high ground they don't merit at all. I am on record on this site calling LFC's statements on the 8 match ban and subsequent appeal exactly what they were. I am firmly of the opinion that t-shirts have absolutely nothing to do with anything and are seen as what they were, a rather pointless show of support before a decision was given that looked sill afterwards. Cos some guy made a killing printing up a few thousand of them afterwards is what it is.. money making for him. I could just as well blame the FA for handing down an 8 match ban without good explanation or just leaving it at that then as you lot can finger all the blame at dalglish to WUM on an internet forum. If people got a modicum of sense for a minute they'd see that a wrong was done and action taken is each case and that spouting off on an internet forum while gloating (and 3 people on this thread have specifically done that) everyone should remember their actions reflect on them not on anyone else... be it a mindless cretin at anfield or a guy shouting the odds on the internet.
So do you think the Oldham incident would have happened whether Kenny donned the T-shirt or not? Can't see SAF wearing an Evra T-shirt.
It's a big leap to make but as I said above, Dalglish and Liverpool's attitude to the whole Suarez affair was pretty poor and can't have helped.
As a Norwich fan my only interest in this is that it now seems obvious that one of our kids, currently on loan to Oldham, was racially abused by a very small number of Liverpool supporters - possibly only one. I am not interested in connections to the Suarez incident but have been very interested in how the Club would react to Tom's situation. The behaviour of the Liverpool players at the time - especially your Captain - was admirable and since the nature of the case has gradually become known it is quite clear that the majority of Liverpool supporters are as annoyed as the rest of us for what happened. I have just read the statement of the Club and it could not be clearer regarding their concern for Tom, their willingness to help bring this matter to a just conclusion and their disgust at what happened. Nobody can do anymore and I suggest that it is now left to the Club and the Police to sort it out.
come on... i think you'll find that dalglish refused to comment before the decision and in the main the actions of commolli and dalglish the REPORT looked weak and amateur hour. If you guys were not personalising this against the lfc manager people might believe you were not going it for as the op stated petty club rivalries. I have said clearly on this forum in the past what i think about the LFC statements. If people stated that they believed it was these statements that led to some guy thinking he had cart blanche to single out a player playing for oldham i'd say ok maybe that played in what could be loosely described as the mind of that person. I don't see guys saying that though they want to make it into a moral high ground for themselves by singling our the manager of suarez or his team mates or anyone they can lay keyboards on. I'll go further and call ridiculous some of the guys who posts on this forum stating the guy was misheard and such.... clearly a mindless idiot took his own actions. 1950 canary is quite right is stating that the police will deal with it and the onus is on LFC to follow up and tell us what membership the guy had and what will be done to exclude him from the club. The guys actions are disgraceful, those who sought to make out that young lad involved was too soft are foolish but again some common sense might be to not tar your won clubs reputation ven if it is only online in a small way cos each action ends up storing up bile for whenever one you the clubs of the 3 guys i referred to have an incident.
everyone wore the tshirt before the verdict. in the end if that's all you can come up with as an excuse to personalise the campaign then fine. that reflect on you. again i'll state that anyone who instead points out that LFC's official strongly worded statements would be something that could trigger this mindless idiot then I would not argue the point and I'll again reiterate for you seeing you quoted me then ignored it. In no way can anyone justify any part of what was said or tell us its a misquote and the police will deal with it. petty point scoring only reflect son those trying to score the points.
What if the lad in the crowd that racially abused that 19 year old lad said "Well my dad did it at home so I thought it was OK"?? Which is basically what Luis Suarez has said! Suarez made a comment which could be construed as a racist remark no matter what - then one of the fans does it and the club take a different stance - what if it is OK to say that from where this lad is from?? He's undefendable apparently according to the club but I suppose he only pays money INTO the club - doesn't take it out...
well first the two incidents are entirely different. but i think you realise that. second the suarez thing merits a 4 match ban as there was other things going on there. to say though what you said is putting words in his mouth as that's not what he said. Again do we ned to get into what the spanish word for this or that is? The Fa took their action on the grounds that the testimony didn't add up and there was no conciliatory action involved in the actions of suarez's hands. I will not say 8 matches was deserved but another will i demand terry gets the same as suarez. third and finallly you see you are sure suarez made a remark. the fact is in one case you have a guy on camera enough to identify him and allow the police to arrest him saying things... on the other you have two guys getting in each others face and all you can say is one guy pinched the other. I happen to believe evra that something was said having read the report but feel the fa went over the top to make a point. If you take the actions of MY club and say that prior to seeing any of the evidence that they should have thrown suarez to the dogs when he said he didn't do it rather than support his claim before the FA and THEN compare that to an incident that could be speedily and conclusive dealt with then I'm afraid you are mistaken.... Its very easy to just forget how then happened at each phase of each investigation and just call them the same isn't it? By all means take issue with the Club statement about the FA after the case decision was given and take issue with that but please don't make out like anyone heard what eent on and somehow covered it up... hell de gea standing two yards away heard nothing. Don't compare a guy caught on camera giving abuse to a 20 year old and singling him out where the club saw the evidence worked with the police to identify him and once that was done took the next logical step.... to a case there nobody but the two guys involved knew what was said exactly and never will really. We know the Fa didn't believe suarez and thats fair enough by me. I think evra can add a lot to stuff but i think something was said though
The club had to act quickly after Surezgate. If South American fans comes to Anfield and call Evra a 'negro' in the Cup match; is that okay?
I'm going to assume one thing here... londonsfinest is a chelsea fan... or so it seems. well http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/public...rrests-banning-orders/fbo-2010-11?view=Binary he who throws the first stone must be without sin... yet... wow Chelsea had two incidents with their fans last year... step out form behind the high horse and admit what you are really about and that is to spout hate to get a reaction. it all just reflects on you, no-one else. lucilky it doesn't refelct on the myriad number of chelsea fans who are not into that sort of behaviour and not too many want to label Chelsea players or fans anything it. why not just leave it alone eh?
