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Buemi & Alguersuari not good enough / Red Bull-Toro Rosso partnership

Discussion in 'Formula 1' started by BrightLampShade, Jan 8, 2012.

  1. SgtBhaji

    SgtBhaji Well-Known Member

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    I personally don't have any problem with them owning two teams so long as they are independent from each other and each have the freedom to compete against the other. As time passes it's clear that's not the case and I personally feel that it's against the spirit of the sport. Thankfully though, they don't field 4 identical cars... otherwise we really would have a totally skewed title race.
     
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    I hear ya, Migs... I think that I struggle with it a little bit though. It's a smart thing to do to look for your next great driver, especially when you may lose Vettel to Ferrari within a couple of years, I'm just not sure if having a team in F1 who's goal is to just source talent is the best thing for the sport or is really in the spirit of the sport. To me, it should be about building cars and trying to win races, not evaluating drivers.
     
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  3. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    I dunno, I think Ricciardo would be more of a match for Vettel than Webber, and Vergne doesn't look to be a slouch either. If the RBR is all conquering again havign 4 of them wouldn't be so bad.
     
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  4. SgtBhaji

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    Maybe the smart thing for Red Bull to do would be to drop Webber and use the second car for the young guns?
     
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  5. El_Bando

    El_Bando Can't remember, where was I?
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    if
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    doesnt think Buemi is good enough then why has
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    given buemi false hope with the reserve seat?

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  6. DHCanary

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    what have hard hats got to do with anything? <laugh>
     
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  7. cosicave

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    I think it's a reference to 'the Helmut': Marko.
     
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  8. DHCanary

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    As ever, sarcasm proves hard to get across in text form. Never mind. <doh>
     
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  9. El_Bando

    El_Bando Can't remember, where was I?
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    the other picture is a door knob ;)
     
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  10. Nazara

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    Don't you mean
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    :wink:
     
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  11. El_Bando

    El_Bando Can't remember, where was I?
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    yes... or

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  12. cosicave

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    Oops! Sorry
    Canary! Like a yellow-feathered thing, it flew over my head! (Just as well 'cos I'm not wearing a Marko&#8230;)
     
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  13. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    the all in one
     

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  14. Nazara

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    Alright that is my last one. :wink:
     
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  15. El_Bando

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    brilliant <ok>
     
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    Back to Alguersuari for a second, I don't understand why Ricciardo and Vergne are so hyped up compared to him. After all Alguersuari won the British F3 title in 2008, which is what they won in 2009 and 2010, respectively. And lets not forget the huge pressure Alguersuari was under when he entered F1. The national newspapers said he was a danger and shouldn't be racing (because of his lack of testing), so to bounce back from that was great. I certainly think he deserves a seat.
     
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  17. El_Bando

    El_Bando Can't remember, where was I?
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    true and he is reletivly young, I mean he could debut at the age he is now.
     
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  18. WestCoastBoogaloo

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    Joe Saward made the very good point that 'If Helmut Marko had been running schemes earlier in F1, there would have been no Nigel Mansell and no Damon Hill and no Mark Webber&#8230; as it seems that drivers can only be winners if they are ready at a wildly young age.'
     
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  19. SgtBhaji

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    You know... you could have made the same statement with just one picture. :p
     
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  20. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    tbh I personally don't rate any of those drivers mention by Saward as greats at all, great championship winning cars yes, but great drivers? not sure about that one. From a personal perspective I'd rather see young guns rotated until we see a driver we KNOW has it. Prost, Senna, Schumacher, Alonso, Hamilton & Vettel you could see from the start were gonna be a bit special. How many seats are taken up by people who don't really deserve to be there at all?
     
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