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The taboo term 'Negro' in Britain.

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by SKY+, Jan 5, 2012.

  1. SKY+

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    I'm surprised my fellow Scousers haven't gone at me hammer and tongs yet because I don't share the majority view <yikes>
     
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  2. Lucaaas

    Lucaaas Well-Known Member

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    Roberts is just a moron. Look at some of his quotes from what he said:

    So he overheard the conversation now did he?

    Again, did you witness any of this happening Jason, or are you talking bollocks as usual?

    Yes, I'm sure Patrice was rightly incensed by the use of "negro", especially when there is footage of him calling some of the Chelsea players "******s" (a word that is undoubtedly racist, unlike negro which is used differently in some countries) in a documentary when he played for Monaco. He was so offended by the use of the word that he uses it freely on a program that was to be aired on television in France. Wow, my heart bleeds for him.
     
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  3. Zingy

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    Sky - The peoples chump. <ok>
     
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    I still don't get how people can say he only said negro/black etc.Like Sky said,if I started calling people white this or that I know I'd be skating on very thin ice.Evra's colour/race should not be brought into it.All this"He said something about his sister BS".More fool Evra an Suarez defenders..He hasn't got one.But anyway this has raged on long enough.Some people get it others don't I'm afraid.
     
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  5. SKY+

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    Thanks <ok>
     
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  6. Lucaaas

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    He has apologised to anyone he accidentally offended through the use of the word negro, but maintains that there was no racial intent behind the use of "negro". Fair enough if you ask me.
     
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  7. Alan

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    Apart from the person he offended the most <doh>
     
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    John Terry's biography was written by Oliver Derbyshire.
    That's Holt's pen name for ghost writing, which uses his mother's maiden name.

    Find one of the ex-members of NWA.
    Call them the first word of their group's name in an argument.
    Tell us what happens next. <ok>
     
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  9. Chief

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    Well sorry fella, not fair enough if you ask me. The words he used;

    "In my country, 'negro' is a word we use commonly, a word which doesn't show any lack of respect and is even less so a form of racist abuse. Based on this, everything which has been said so far is totally false.

    "I will carry out the suspension with the resignation of someone who hasn't done anything wrong and who feels extremely upset by the events.

    "I do feel sorry for the fans and for my team-mates, whom I will not be able to help during the next month. It will be a very difficult time for me."


    are the words of someone who cares not one **** about using a racially abusive term in this country and only about himself.
     
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  10. Bloody Wanker

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    Some people are beyond help.
     
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    He has definitely wrote a book about Terry, under the name Oliver Derbyshire. Concealing his identity, perhaps?
     
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    Yeah Derbyshire is his mum's maiden name, so it's probably him.
     
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  13. BringBackfootie

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    I think when news of someone tortured on christmas day to death by his own family makes less news that this sheite it has all gone pete tong in the world.
     
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    Yet another Suarez thread leading to arguments...
     
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  15. Raffles_LFC

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    People seem to forget that Evra said some pretty horrid things about Suarez's sister iirc. What a saint he is. He hurls terrible abuse and goes crying to the referee when he gets abused back. He's the worst type of person... he's a snivelling little coward, hiding behind authority. He can dish it out but can't take it.

    Have you guys seen that Chris Rock clip on youtube (or have it on dvd) about black people? As a comedian, he himself (as a black man) says he hates ******s, but loves black people. A ****** to him is somebody who is black and is a disgrace to his people for whatever reason. Evra is a disgrace to his people by hurling abuse at somebody and then playing the race card when he gets it back. Hence he is due an insult. And he got it.

    Sure, rightly or wrongly it will always be classed as a hate crime in the UK, but a black man hurling insults can expect to be insulted back.. and that includes racial slurs. That's my opinion on the matter.
     
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  16. DayDoDoeDontDayDoe

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    Negro in ENGLISH means a black man

    Negro in Spanish, means the word " black".There is a River Negro in South America.Therefore the context of the word is entirely different, if you havnt worked this out by now ther really is no hope for you

    A man who is a LIVERPOOL player has been wrongly convicted of an offence by a Kangaroo court ( the FA, who lets not beat about the bush,are ALWAYS gettin things f**kin wrong), purely because the FA wants to pick a fight with FIFA and they think by claiming the moral high ground with FIFA ,it might help them down them in the future.The media are also backing FIFA also cos they want Blatter out too.

    Thats ok

    BUT

    It aint f**kin ok , when the guy your accusing ISNT F**KING GUILTY,and should never have been found guilty in the 1st place.There are so many flaws with this case its untrue

    1.Evra being shown footage of game while giving evidence, Suarez wasnt. WHY??
    2.Evras distaste for the word Negro, but he doesnt have a problem with saying the far more offensive word ****** while playin for Monaco,and this is the guy who says hes detests this word.HOW CREDIBLE IS THAT

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...Patrice-Evra-video-using-n-word-YoutTube.html


    3.The foul which led to the incident,where Evra is fouled, he says was SHOCKED by it, even United fans are f*ckin embaressed to see him rollin round on the floor like hes been shot.This makes him even less credible, this is the FAs CREDIBLE witness

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LH50lwwBRms

    4.Evidence which says he said to the ref, Your only booking me cos Im black.
    5.In his 1st statement, he claims he was called Negro 10 times, which changed to 5 ann then 7 times during the course of the case
    6 Evras previous record ,ist not the 1st time he has made racism accusations against people,which wre dropped
    7.He has a flaming arguement with the ref at the coin toss for petes sake,claimin the ref was lying too him
    8.The ENTIRE Spanish/Portuguese speaking world is totally and utterly baffled by it,and hasnt got a clue why Suarez has even been charged.I know PERSONALLY someone from Angola,whose 1st language is Portuguese,and has an excellent grasp of Spanish, he is black , he cannot believe Suarez has been charged
    9.Suarez cant even speak the lingo properly yet,Ive seen him do 1 interview in which he said about 10 words in English
    10.Evra Stormin out of the French camp, the guy leaves his own country in the s**t when it suits him
    11. Chris Bascombe now saying that it may be the case the FA "coached" Evra through the interview
    12.Suarez is 1/4 cast,has a black grandfather, Suarez wife calls him .....negro
    13.Suarez when at Nacional got friendly with one of his team mates, he came to live at Suarez house as his teammate lived in another town.HE WAS BLACK!!!
    14.The 3 Linguist experts the FA CHOSE,from the University of ...........Manchester, not one of them with Spanish as a 1st language
    15.Evra abusing Suarez sister
    16.Evra ADMITTING STARTING the arguement
    17.No witness hearing Suarez abuse Evra 5,7,10 times
    18.Suarez admitted saying negro once, why,because he obviously had no clue that it would be construed as offensive.


    I could go on,and on,and on,and on,and on.................

    Evras character is a disgrace, to be frank he's a horrible,horrible human being.And it totally sickens me that hes lied and got away with these lies.Persoanlly I believe the FA know hes full of s**t ,there just desperate to use this as a stick to beat FIFA with.Thats all this is, the FA playing politics with the FIFA,and the media hate FIFA too so they are helping them out.This is the FA saying we deal with racism and FIFA dont

    The FA are definitely incompetant,definitely f**k things up EVERY week,definitely make the rules up as they go along,definitely have political agendas against FIFA,possibly favour some clubs over others,and probably are corrupt too

    Suarez is being wrongly accused of a crime he didnt do,would you leave your family in the s**t if they were in the same boat.No!!!!
    Racism is an important issue,but no more important than Sexism,Homophobia or any other descrimiantion
    IT/RACISM IS LESS IMPORTANT THAN JUSTICE,and Justice has not been done in this case, a man who isnt guilty is suffering a ban when he shouldnt be

    I love Liverpool from the bottom of my soul,and i am SURE he is innocent,he will get MY TOTAL UTTER UNNADULTERATED BACKING!!!!!!!!

    And if you and any other LFC fans havnt worked this out by now,well theres no hope.Perhaps you go and support another team!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Utterly laughable.


    Pointless thread SKY. You tried, but this is a waste of time.
     
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  18. BringBackfootie

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    I guess it was never really resolved as to what heppened and who really meant what. We are still getting heaps of abuse, look at your own board, your lot are keping this one warm and the utter sheite from mancs and spuds still, get them lot to let it lie swarbs and then so can we. The media aint helping with quotes from nobody black footballers lately too


    you're a mod on your board and you are happy to preside over such threads
     
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  19. Lucaaas

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    "if it offends anyone then I want to apologise for that."

    So this apology doesn't cover Evra? Wait, yes it does. Should he have made a personal apology to Evra straight away even if he didn't mean to be racist toward him, as Evra obviously had the impression he was? Yes, probably.

    No, I wouldn't call anyone that, as it has too many negative meanings attached to it for me to use it. Feel free to use it yourself though.
     
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  20. BringBackfootie

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    Evra threatened violence and insulted a family member, both things I'd knock his black ass out for, Suarez was reserved if you ask me, I'd have kicked 7 shades of **** out of him never mind calling him negro,

    Anton Ferdinand just accepted Terry was being a dick opponent Evra is a fking attention seeker, strike at the world cup, what the fcuk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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