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Discussion in 'Swansea City' started by big_apple_jack, Jan 2, 2012.

  1. swanseaandproud

    swanseaandproud Well-Known Member

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    spot on thaitaffy.......its amazing what a couple of good results will do but we have had a couple of good results before and went to pieces, do we need players????? absolutely we do....dont forget even a loan player will cost us for the season and i dont mean wages either, It will all mount up by the time brendan finishes bringing players in and that will add to the total cost of £10 million +
     
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  2. big_apple_jack

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    Please explain when it was that we "...went to pieces..." at any point in this season, Dai? Bad results, yes, but we still haven't lost two games back to back (if my memory is correct) which Sir Alex Ferguson marks as a the true test of quality teams. "Bouncebackability" I think it's called and we have it abundance!
     
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  3. swanseaandproud

    swanseaandproud Well-Known Member

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    come on we have dropped points at home that we should have won and all them points we have dropped at away matches that we should of at least got a point......those go to pieces games....
     
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  4. Scottswan

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    I can honestly say the only time I've seen us "go to pieces" was against Wolves away, and we got a point away. Not the best, granted, from 2-0 but a point is still a point.
     
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  5. thaitaffy

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    Big apple,i understand that we all have our own opinion,we are all for wanting Swansea,but u write about bent etc at a cost of 15+.i never said that,i said we .sry i would like 2- 3 players,2 quality and 1 more,who i hope will be quality,maybe a cost together,(together) about 10 mill,and if if swansea go down,so be it,but everybody tried to their best ability within the budget of trying to stay up.this is my opinion and only mine,dont tell me that above 5 mill it will break our bank.we are premiere now,with tv rights etc.if swansea cant afford to spend 5 mill +..( not 50 mill. 1 mean 5-10 to keep us in the premiere,well we dont deserve to be in it.)i totally dislike all the money spent on players,some clubs 100+,but be honest,how many clubs spend less than us,or if not,their players are worth more than us.i am not asking for an open cheque book,as i wrote befor,but even 10 mill is nothing in the premiereship.we all know that
     
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  6. big_apple_jack

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    Sorry if my post sounded like an attack on your opinion, Thai, that wasn't my intention. But your post merely highlighted the current fixation on money equating success. Hypothetically, if we were to sign 3 or 4 prem quality players on free transfers would people then still be clamoring for Jenkins to get the cheque book out simply because we hadn't spent enough money? I am not for one second suggesting that these free transfers exist, as I wasn't suggesting that a single outlay of 15mill+ was your intention, Thai, but I am trying to demonstrate the folly that is the interpretation of pound signs as an indicator of player quality and suitability for our club. Who knows, we may spend 15mill this transfer window - Jenkins and Rogers will have been aware of the January transfer kitty as soon as the summer transfer window closed - but it would be utterly ridiculous IMO for fans to blame our (unlikely) relegation on a lack of spending in January, if a large sum of cash isn't splashed out during this window. The correct players for our team will be sourced, sounded out, and negotiated with, whether they cost 10mill or 10 pence. In HJ we trust. STID
     
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  7. Kifflom!

    Kifflom! Well-Known Member

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    Seems like we still have some 'fans' who have forgotten what we have achieved so far. Not perfect, but if that were the case we'd be top.

    There have been hardly any games where we've been really poor from beginning to end. "Gone to pieces" doesn't seem appropriate to me. We sat back at Wolves after playing really well to go 2 up. We didn't bury QPR after playing well and gifted them a daft goal, but for me the worst was probably Norwich away where we didn't perform at all and looked out of our depth.

    The team, and more importantly its Manager are on a steep learning curve and it seems to me that Rodgers has now at long last realised that the way to get something against the top teams is to give it a right go.
     
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  8. swanseaandproud

    swanseaandproud Well-Known Member

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    hence ...we went to pieces and did not perform......<ok>
     
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  9. big_apple_jack

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    If every time we lose a game, or forfeit a winning position, you are going to label it "going to pieces", Dai, may I suggest you follow a new sport? Losing games is inevitable, unless we become Arsenal from a few years back, and as it seems quite unlikely that that is going to happen anytime soon, you should get used to following a mid table Premier league club, which means dealing rationally with the hiccups that will occur along the way.

    A serious question, Dai: Would you be disappointed if we repeated our first half of the season's performance, and points total, in the second half of the season?
     
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  10. aswan_dam

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    You make very sensible and eloquent comments, big_apple_jack. <ok>

    Dai's answer to your question is that Danny Graham is a Championship striker, but not good enough for the PL.:emoticon-0105-wink:
     
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  11. swanseaandproud

    swanseaandproud Well-Known Member

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    i know my football and that what you dont like, maybe when you grow up you might know as much as me, i doubt it but you might, danny has had plenty of praises from me and all i advocate is he is not a goal scoring striker and should change to central midfield where he will be better used and would score more goals......like i say i know my football....deal with it...<ok>
     
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  12. aswan_dam

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    Only messing about SS. Calm down. But you didn't answer b_a_j's question. A yes or no will suffice....<ok>
     
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  13. Kifflom!

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    "...he is not a goal scoring striker"

    <laugh>

    pmsl
     
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  14. big_apple_jack

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    @aswan_dam <ok>

    I was asking you a serious question, Dai, and I'm genuinely interested in your answer. Personally, I would be intellectually delighted if we finish in 17th place, however I would be emotionally disappointed as I feel that we are a much better footballing team than many others in this league and are capable of finishing higher......plus I'm not sure that my health could cope with the unbearable tension that a relegation scrap would bring.
     
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  15. swanseaandproud

    swanseaandproud Well-Known Member

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    danny is a great player and a strong player that is good at holding up the ball....but will never be a double figure scorer in a million years up front on his own in the premiership, he would be better suited a more central position behind a better poaching striker which he is definitely not to get more goals, anyone who knows about football should be able to work that out just by looking at the way he plays....sinclair was a striker who was a good player but his goals were not often enough and he was changed to a winger, Tate was signed as a goalkeeper by sir alex and after a while realised he would make a better defender. there are plenty of examples of players who join a club and end up playing different position and danny i feel wont score many goals that will be enough to increase our goal tally......
     
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  16. Crackerjack

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    Big apple & thaitaffy make great comments , I'm convinced that the perfect scenario is somewhere in between . Regardless though , how fun is it to nit pick when things are GREAT !!!
     
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  17. doctor love

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    dai, you know your football, but it's not the same football everybody else watches. i bet you dg gets to double figures, he's only got 4 to go.
     
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  18. Scottswan

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    Err, what?! Dai, you still haven't told us when we've "gone to pieces"? Do you even read anyone else's posts?
     
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  19. Kifflom!

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    "but will never be a double figure scorer in a million years up front on his own in the premiership"

    Half way through the season and he's got 6.

    Engage brain before moving off next time.
     
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  20. thaitaffy

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    We all agree that the Swans have done better than most of us would have predicted so far.We all have our own opinions,whether right or wrong,but all for the + of Swansea and their future.If we all thought the same,how boring would that be.That is why there are forums to give your view.I think if we had 50 million to spend on 1 player,there would be about 20 names given and 11 positions.Thats life and we all have to live with it,whether we agree or disagree.but 1 thing is,we are all for our team.SCFC. Now get out your tissues and have a good cry and try to forgive and forget.lol until the next banter
     
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