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Rough Justice!

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  1. Rangers Til I Die

    Rangers Til I Die Well-Known Member

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    Well, that is the MOTD verdict.

    As QPR fans know, we do not seem to be that popular with the MOTD team but even they agreed that rough justice had been served on us. Johnson's theatrics contributed to the debacle and he should be ashamed this morning for being revealed as a cheat.

    Whitebread - the dirtiest, least talented defender seen at Loftus Road for years. He would be better suited to martial arts with all the moves that he has!

    Elsewhere someone has suggested we need to be better losers. Actually that is something we are quite good at as QPR fans! However to lose to an incorrect decision is sickening beyond words.

    To end on a positive note, great credit to Grant Holt who seemed genuinely displeased at the red. Perhaps he knew that a potentially good game of football had been ruined by an incorrect decision. That's the way it seemed to me anyway so great credit to him.
     
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  2. JonahJameson

    JonahJameson Active Member

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    You’ve forgotten last season Norwich cheated to get a QPR player sent off at Carrow Road – Holt slowing down in front of someone, taking a dive and the clown ref sending him off despite TWO covering defenders and Holt being miles from the goal.

    All that was missing yesterday was the trademark Norwich training ground Olympic standard dive with theatrically flailing arms.

    Are the rest of the league AT LAST starting to see past the Norwich dweeb image and recognise their consistent and coordinated cheating. They might be well organised, they might be well motivated, Lambert might be great at spotting players from the lower leagues, but consistent and coordinated cheating has made the difference for two promotions and for their current premier league mid-table position.

    They should be sued into a black hole.
     
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  3. Home on the range canary

    Home on the range canary Well-Known Member

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    Yep it was rough justice, tough!
     
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  4. ThaiCanary

    ThaiCanary Well-Known Member

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    Seen the replays so many times but they are poor quality so can not make my mind up one way or the other. It appears JB did push his face towards BJ but not with any considerable force and certainly not enough force to cause an injury.

    My initial reaction when the game was in progress was that he was going to get a red card and so it turned out to be.

    I would love to be able to view the referee's report to be honest and see exactly what he says happened and why the card was shown. Until that time I don't think I can say 100% it was a red card offence that took place, or that the holding of the face of Brad Johnson in any way influenced the decision or indeed what did influence the decision.

    What is possible, and this is only an opinion, is that it could have been a combination of the head to head incident and the arm swing in to Zak Whitbread - again, until something official comes from the referee's report it is impossible to comment further.

    The only thing I would add to that is - be it the red card was correct or incorrect, JB could and should have avoided the confrontation with BJ in the first place, regardless of the provocation. Easy for us fans to say that from the comfort of our sofa's but the guy is a pro football player, he should know better.
     
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  5. SAM THE (NORWICH) MAN

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    To be fair Johnson didnt make a meal of it. You cant move your head towards another player like barton did. he should have known better having played in top flight the years that he has. I hope neil warnock gets a really bad rash. as irrertating as he is!! enjoy relegation! OTBC
     
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  6. Staines R's

    Staines R's Well-Known Member

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    I disagree that he didnt make a meal of it mate.
    The incident happened not far from me and if there was ANY contact , which i personally dont think there was, your guy wiping his face looking for blood and throwing his head back in pain was pure comic genius.
    Aint complaining about it, 'cos thats life BUT your man cheated to get Barton sent off.
     
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  7. robbieBB

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    If an angry Joey Barton comes running at you and thrusts his head at your face, most people's instinctive reaction would be to pull their head back and away, which is precisely what BJ did. Neil Warnock in his interview described Bradley Johnson as "going down"; he did not go down, he stayed on his feet and took evasive action, completely understandable. Also understandable is that he should afterwards rub his face to see if there HAD been any damage. How many second chances does Barton get? He's a thoroughly unpleasant guy and all the tweeting in the world isn't going to change him.

    Too many football-connected people in this country are morally bankrupt, thinking that talent on the field outweighs anything off it. There are countless examples. Some miscreants -- Tony Adams for example -- genuinely regret their actions and turn over a new leaf. Others like John Terry just give it the two fingers. Moral bankruptcy in the game starts with the FA and has accomplices in the BBC which falls over backwards to "adopt" people like King and Barton in the interests of what the BBC Governors call "edginess" but is actually just an appeal to the worst in human nature.

    Rant over!
     
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  8. Rangers Til I Die

    Rangers Til I Die Well-Known Member

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    Ain't that the truth?! Like cheating Bradley Johnson.
     
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    I don't see any theatrics the guy was rubbing his nose and he recoiled from what he at least thought was a head butt. Fact is if you've a rep for being a dirty nasty little thug then you need to wind ya neck in, if he hadn't acted like a muppet (note spellling) then it wouldn't have happened
     
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  10. Wonko The Sane

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    <laugh> Enjoy your three points Sam. Well deserved tbf. <laugh>
     
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    I'm not saying Barton is a victim of his own reputation 'cos thats 100 per cent right BUT how someone can be rubbing their nose/fore head and checking for blood when there has been NO (or very little) contact is making a meal of it and IMO cheating in feigning injury so to get an opposing player sent off.
     
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    <laugh>

    No if you're being exact he recoiled and then started caressing his face. <laugh>

    So Barton got sent off for "intending to head butt" someone who was apparently recoiling from what "he at least thought was a head butt". Glad that's cleared up. <laugh>

    Fair play to Holt though. Now that's something I never thought I'd type.
     
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  13. Wonko The Sane

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    Agree with all this Staines. But it's gone. I hope it gets appealed to be fair.
     
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  14. Cruyff's Turn

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    In the final analysis,if you carried a reputation around your neck like Joey Barton does (Whether it is deserved is a whole separate issue) the sensible thing would be not to approach other players in an aggressive manner that can be used against you.The sending off was harsh but Barton put his head in the noose.I'm sure Neil Warnock considered this when he took him on
     
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  15. Staines R's

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    True mate, what's done is done.
    The lino (Who saw absolutly nothing of the incident) was standing right in front of me while Derry was having a pop at him. F### me, i thought Shauns head was gonna explode in anger :)
     
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  16. Hairy Mary Quite Canary

    Hairy Mary Quite Canary Well-Known Member

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    All the replays show zero detail. Barton got in Johnson's face and Johnson backed off... He didn't "go down" as your utter knob of a manager said on national television. He didn't cheat he merely backed off and whether he touched his face or not doesn't matter. The ref and linesman (who were closer than all of you) decided he had to go. Sh1t happens and all teams get decisions that go for and against them.

    I'm bored now.
     
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    From the picture posted online later that night he recoiled from Barton's bad breath, maybe that's why he was rubbing his nose too LOL!!!
     
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  18. Walsh.i.am

    Walsh.i.am Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    In terms of 'rough justice' calls, and nothing to do with Barton, but we conceeded a penalty in each of our first 5 (five) games this season - at least two of which were nowhere near the penalty area.
    I don't recall Lambert appearing on national TV and berating the world and his dog, maybe Colin could pick up some tips from him in the humility stakes <ok>

    What he said about Van Persie last week was totally out of order, this week was Bradley Johnson's turn, Shall we have side bets on who "cheats" during your next fixture? At least we know it won't be a Rangers player, as they're all saints!
     
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  19. Wonko The Sane

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    YES.IT.DOES. What part of that concept don't you understand?

    Unfortunately I think you're safe this season. But if by some chance you do slip into the mire I'll be there quoting your last sentence back at you. Then we'll test your boredom threshold. <laugh>
     
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  20. Canary Rob

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    OP you obviously didn't listen very carefully to MOTD did you?

    They said it was rough justice because the linesman and the ref clearly never saw the incident. That's what all the replays were about- the ref didn't see it, he consulted with the linesman, the linesman can't have seen it or he would have flagged it. That's what made it rough justice.

    At NO point was there any accusation of cheating against BJ on MOTD, they said nothing. The footage is unclear and BJ didn't make a meal of it. NOrwich fans were the first to admit that Tierney went down too easily earlier in the season and he got slammed on MOTD- here they said nothing because BJ didn't do anything.

    The problem is, how did the ref come to the conclusion? He can't have made it alone, the linesman didn't see it and the Norwich players didn't make a song and dance of it. As mentioned on the commentary but ignored by the k***s on MOTD, it must have been the fourth official, who has the power to speak to the ref if he saw something none of the other officials saw. That would explain the lengthy delay, and why the QPR bench and your twat of a manager spent the second half whining at him.

    So get over all of this, nine of us care, and think about blaming JB for having such a bad rep. If you really can't face blaming yourselves (which explains why you like NW) blame the fourth official
     
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