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The Official Not606 Match Thread: Liverpool Vs Newcastle United.

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by Chris., Dec 28, 2011.

  1. Amnesiac

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    Obertan has been doing alright, at least he's trying to bring some flair to us!
     
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  2. BCR

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    I'll give you the final 20 minutes for downing, but he was losing the ball left, right, and center at the beginning. His final product is still lacking massively. Spearo has done well to hound them in the middle and give them no time or joy, looks up for it.
     
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  3. DirtyFrank

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    Ahh no!; not criticising his work rate mate but I thought we bought him to deliver into box either with shot or cross. If all we wanted on right was work rate, we could have saved millions and kept Kuyt there.

    Not throwing the lad away but needs to do what he's paid for.
     
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  4. skalpel

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    Yeah, that's the thing with Obertan though - he tries but usually fails. This first half, every time we've strung some good attacking passes together it's been completely in orbit of Cabaye who is just playing off a load of one twos. Totally agree with your ideas for subs, HBA for Vuckic who looks a lost today unfortunately, and Santon on for Raylor who is making Downing look like a good player.
     
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  5. BCR

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    this this and this.
     
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  6. Minty Fresh

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    Is Ryan Taylor struggling with an injury? Regardless of if he is or not he needs to be subbed off for Santon. He's been a liability and Jonas got booked because of him.

    All round it has been a terrible first half by us. Collo, Tiote and Dreamboat are doing OK but the rest are doing poorly. Don't deserve to be level imo.
     
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  7. Tino's Machine Gun

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    The four players on our flanks would struggle to pass wind let alone a football. They have been pathetically bad and are dragging us down - every time we pass it out there it gets given away. We have been embarrassing today IMO, minor miracle that we're level.
     
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    Jonas is tired and has been for weeks.
     
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  9. The Deluded Pablo Diego Jose Francisco

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    This. Ever since the Stoke game he's hardly done anything
     
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  10. Sharpe*

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    Good to know we're not the only pessimistic fans!
     
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  11. Amnesiac

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    There's no one there when he's moving forward, he gets isolated which ends up in lost possession and will get criticised for it by most of us. If he's having a mare I'd be writing differently, but as it stands it's not down to him. His best move was when he went into the centre and forced people into play.
     
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  12. skalpel

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    <laugh> Alright, screw it.

    We're ****ing mauling you, you pathetic scouse bastards. Ba could be on a hat trick by now and Carroll should have had a red early on for punching Coloccini to the floor.
     
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    I'll agree his final product hasn't been great, but sometimes what he's given us first half is as much as you need from a player. I think there's others to be looked at. I happen to think Henderson has great potential but he doesn't work very well alongside Adam as Adam can't play the give and go that Henderson likes, and Henderson gets on the ball when Adam wants creative control. Henderson needs to get further forward (where Gerrard played behind Torres) so that he can link with Carroll.

    There's a good article by AnfieldIndex looking at our recent scoring problems, and it partly shows that Downing's chance creation is still actually quite good and on a par with what he was doing at Villa, it is actually a problem with the finishing for the most part. That's not dismissing that his, and the whole team's, end product should be better.
     
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    That's more like it!
     
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    <laugh>
     
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  16. skalpel

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    I don't particularly think Obertan is having a terrible game, but his first three passes were abysmal; and for all three he had time, space and plenty of choice. I agree though, Obertan is the new scapegoat for many of us here whenever a move ends badly.
     
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    Halftime just dragging on, **** we have city on the 3rd! Would like to get all 3 points if possible on this game!
     
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  18. Sharpe*

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    Guests! Come on what are you waiting for? Give it a go.
     
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  19. skalpel

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    Looks like Santon may be coming on.
     
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    Not too impressed with vuckic but like his height. Would keep him on and replace Obertan with HBA.

    And Santon for Raylor obv.
     
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