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  1. ManDingo 20"/20"

    ManDingo 20"/20" MDMA Guru

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    It's cool I'm scottish not irish <ok>
     
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  2. Ciaran

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    New one. FAO MD

    Files just released by the National Archives show Margaret Thatcher took part in negotiations with the IRA during the 1981 Hunger Strikes, BBC investigative journalist Peter Taylor has said.

    The contacts took place through an MI6 officer and a secret back-channel to the IRA code-named Soon.

    Soon was Londonderry businessman Brendan Duddy.

    Mr Taylor said he was astonished when he saw the documents.

    "I think that they are revelatory and of genuine historical importance because they give lie to all sorts of assumptions that were made incorrectly about the Hunger Strikes and the relationship between the government and the IRA.

    "These documents spell it our large that Mrs Thatcher was involved in negotiations with the IRA," he said.

    The documents contain details of eight phone calls between the MI6 officer and Mr Duddy during the weekend from 4 July to 6 July 1981.

    Among the proposals coming from IRA prisoners was that senior republican Martin McGuinness, now Northern Ireland's deputy first minister, be allowed in to see them in the Maze.

    This was turned down by the government.

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    "That was all to do with the government's insistence, Mrs Thatcher's insistence, that she did not negotiate with terrorists, she did not and would not negotiate with the IRA.

    "The documents clearly indicate that that was nonsense, that was going on all the time behind the scene."

    In the the final call from Mr Duddy on Monday 6 July, he said the IRA endorsed their earlier demands and wanted to see a government response before it was made public. The government sent a statement straight away.

    "This letter represents the government's final negotiating position," Mr Taylor said.

    "Margaret Thatcher made changes to it in her own hand.


    Republicans were on hunger strike at the Maze prison "The issue of clothing is resolved, the issues of parcels and visits is resolved, but again, critically, the issues of work and association are not resolved.

    "It's Mrs Thatcher who crosses out the relevant parts of the document that indicate she, the British government, is not prepared to give in on work and association."

    At the end of the statement was a message.

    It read: "If we receive a satisfactory response to this proposal by 9am on Tuesday 7 July we shall be prepared to provide you with an advance text of the full statement.

    "If the reply is unsatisfactory and there is subsequently any public reference to this exchange we will deny it took place."

    Mrs Thatcher's former chief press secretary Sir Bernard Ingham said he was completely unaware of any negotiations involving the prime minister.

    "As far as I can see, there wasn't a great deal of negotiation here," he said of the newly released documents.
     
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  3. ManDingo 20"/20"

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    Read it last night, so not so new.

    Thatcher was a bitch, tis all that proves <applause>
     
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    "As far as I can see, there wasn't a great deal of negotiation here," he said of the newly released documents.

    <laugh><laugh>What a silly **** <laugh>
     
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    Just so you know Ciaran I really don't care either way <ok>
     
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    So you read it last night and still made your initial comment <laugh>


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    ****er, dick and **** are more appropriate terms <ok>
     
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    @ MD
    Why do you dislike the Irish so much ?
     
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    I don't i quite enjoy the Irish, its just when you start harping on about that IRA ****e i get bored.
     
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    Just shut up<ok>
     
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    Can't ****ing stand you though, your typed out thoughts are eye rape.
     
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    You are very stupid.
     
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    I'm not talking slightly stupid either. I mean thick as pig **** stupid.
     
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    Still can't hear you, your talking like your from the past :confused:
     
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  16. Paulie Gualtieri

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    md is a ***got hun and doesn't afraid of your riddles Rebel
     
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    [video=youtube;e8v9btjOZzg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8v9btjOZzg[/video]
     
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    This make sense doesn't ****wit you are. Language england not first your.
     
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