http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2079569/Andy-Keogh-Wolves-Leeds-off.html Do people still really think Grayson is backed by Bates but is simply reluctant to spend? There's no way we're actually paying 500k for Danny Pugh. We couldn't even afford Keith Andrews' wages over the summer for Christ's sake. We can't afford Howson's wage demands. We can't afford White's wage demands. We couldn't afford Johnson's or Kilkenny's. We cashed in on Gradel as soon as possible. We won't be able to afford anyone worthwhile in January, just as we haven't been able to since well before Grayson came in. Squeeze. Squeeze. Squeeze. Drip. Drip. Drip. Build. Build. Build.
You could tell with Bates' excuses recently about squad size being too big and needing to reduce wage bill that it would be another slow January regarding incoming players. Summer was awful after the big build up and that was when there were freebies available and people had sufficient time to sell a player and replace them. January always seems a bit rushed because teams are reluctant to sell, hence why prices are often over inflated.
Do you know how much wolves want for him? If not, i dont really think your in a position to question whether grayson is backed by Bates
Well common sense says A) they're touching the relegation places B) he's surplus to requirements and C) he's sucking up wage money which they need to strengthen their team. So if they want more than 200k for him, I'd be amazed. I'd expect it to be a free transfer if anything; the impediment is that Leeds can't be arsed paying Keogh's wages any longer if they have to shell out 200k or whatever for Pugh. You can't know it for sure, but then again, you can't know most things in life for sure. And what about all the other ones I mentioned? And the point about there not being money for transfers before Grayson was here? And, looking back over more of our failed summer attempts, Aron Gunnarsson, Jonathan Spector, Jack Cork, Adam Le Fondre, Keith Southern, Lee Bowyer, Neil Danns, Jonathan Greening, Jerzy Dudek, Sammy Clingan and Michael Johnson. Don't tell me the club didn't want at least half of those players and couldn't have secured them if Grayson had been properly backed. Even the most enthusiastic Bates fans are starting to see that it's not a matter of Grayson being stingy.
Im sorry but... We are blaming Bates for our failings we are wrong. Grayson has signed some players granted on free's but he has not fixed the issues at the back we have had for over 18 months now. He clearly not motivating the team and able to change the game. Bates yes does need got give some money towards improving the squad..(surely the max money at least) 1xCB 1x DM If I'm honest i think a change in Manager is required waiting for the chairman to change will take allot longer and no real guarantee of investment in the team. Our squad does not have the depth in the positions we need but does have quality enough for that division. The Prem is a long way off.
The sooner Bates is out of this club the better, I am amazed that Bates has any supporters left but there you go. I admit Grayson with a 3 million budget to spend or blow would worry me. However the facts are we are NOT going to get promoted with the current squad, we have no depth and not enough quality. Grayson needs funds, if he makes them work we get promoted, if he blows it we are no better or worse off. The club will not be in any financial difficulty, it would just mean less lining of Bates pockets. We all know the money is there, facts and figures to profits, gate receipts and player sales are there for all to see. If Bates doesn't trust Grayson fine sack him get a new manager in and give him 3 million to spend. Either way we need some investment as we cannot keep scraping the barrel looking for someone else with average ability.
Leeds could spend £20m and promotion would still be unlikely now. Bates' attitude needs to change! We needed the defence improving and all we did was rely on Kisnorbo getting back to full fitness and bring in the useless O'Dea in on loan. Luckily Lees and White have stepped up. We lost 2 first team CM'S, we brought in an older player (yet one who hadn't played for months), gave clayton a chance and took a gamble on an out of contract player in Mika. We lost Gradel on deadline day and have since been a very different team, with pugh coming in for a change of mindset when it was clear Nunez couldn't play out wide. Keogh has done a job covering for injured players. My issue with the club is the season starts early August, therefore i expect to see the majority of the team in place for the very first match. This wasn't the case with DO'D coming in a couple of days before the first match. Arsenal did something similar to us by trying to hold onto players that it was clear would leave and therefore new squad members didn't arrive till deadline, which resulted in a dreadful start and could cost them 4th place. Who knows what our poor August may cost us?
He won't give Grayson the money, he doesn't give a **** how good he thinks the manager is with the money. If it's getting spent on players it's not getting spent on pointless building projects. The. Man. Is. A. Crook. He needs to go.
Have you ever thought that maybe SG has decided he doesn't want Keogh on a permanent transfer? Just because a paper has reported that we cannot afford the transfer, it may be more like the club don't value the player as much as Wolves want. After having him here for a few months, where he's only got 2 goals, Grayson might have decided not to bother wasting any little money he gets on him. Agree with that. The club did get linked with a lot of good players over the summer, so I reckon there must have been some truth to it. However, this idea that Grayson has worked on a shoe string budget is a myth. Free transfers, short term deals and loans may not cost a lot each but the amount we've had in SG's 3 years does add up. He has spent money, and he's spent it poorly. He needs to be given more, but what he has had, he's mostly wasted.
Quite possibly but then you could ask the question why did we waste a wage on Forssell. If Keough is going to cost anything in excess of £300k then I would have to say waste of money when we have other areas of more importance and as you say, how much for a striker with two goals and under 4 assists http://soccernet.espn.go.com/stats/assists/_/league/eng.2/english-league-championship?cc=5739
I do ask that question. Forsell has been a massive waste of wages. But signing Keogh wouldn't really improve the squad that much to make it worth while. If the club are trying to go up cheaply, then they won't want to be spending money on Keogh, and may have decided against it. I do actually rate Keogh. He's got good link up play, but simply doesn't make enough of an impact to warrant us spending the apparently small budget that the club have.
My take lets play hard ball Wolves need to unload like all clubs other than City and Chelsea and Man u so we tell them that yes we will newgotiate but our top offer is nowhere near theres they want 500-850k what they paid for him we want him for 100k I think for once we play hard ball and for the first time ever I actually agree with the cretins tactics however the sooner he goes the better as he is causing untold damage to our club. Lets give SG £3m and see what he can do with it West Ham have just offered that for Whittingham thats what we are up against . To all the grayson out brigade name another manager who is surplus in his transfer dealings other than Wenger and we all rate him!
Yeah the asking price is around the 50K mark but you all know Ken Bates. Wont spend money on anything and will sell anyone for a quick buck
Thought that he he but what an amazing thought anyway. Imagine bates giving Grayson 33m. He'd probably buy forty players and end up with biggest ****e squad in Europe
