Thought this was a pretty good read: http://www.sportingintelligence.com...nd-blackpool-were-cheated-last-season-210801/ I don't think you can say that certain teams were 'robbed' of points as nothing is guaranteed off an incorrect decision. What I found interesting was that are ~ 200 incorrect decisions a season enough to tempt a change in technology? Also at West Ham gaining 7 points and still hitting relegation
that's very interesting! And does prove that there are far too many mistakes by officials...i know they're only human, but i know that the Championship ones are generally rubbish!
Thats an interesting one I think India are wrong not to use DRS in cricket , I think the tech in rugby is very good ,as it is in most sports ! so why is it the fossils in the FA FL ,UEFA and FIFA cannot use the technology available! in the one of the worlds richest games is ludricous , H is right the refs for the last few seasons have been substandard ,and when money matters more and more , the standard of officials and decision making has to improve!
Totally disagree (but you knew that ). Yes the only-human-referees make mistakes, but nowhere near as many as the players themselves make, yet they are generally the ones who make the biggest noise about it. So if they ever stop, I'll agree that something will then have to be done about referees - but I'm not holding my breath.
N. the difference to football and the other sports that you mention is the respect for referees at all levels. There is no pressure on rugby refs or cricket umpires to be as good as the Rollands or Taufels of this world but the abuse refs are getting even in kids football on a Sun morning (primarily from parents) is simply inexcusable and there has been a decrease in those wanting to become refs and an increase of refs dropping out of the game because of it. I am generally in favour of the tech, but the help offered to refs to be able to cope with the abuse isn't available and until it is, this could be a trend which may not be able to be reversed and where would possibly the richest league in the world be with no refs coming through? I know that this may be considered sensastionalising the issue and only be relevant to the UK, but it is still a worrying trend.
I dont think we have had any decent refs for a few seasons , respect is a two edged sword as well , if the refs earnt respect(top level ) they might get some respect back! Clive Thomas used to command respect ! as did a few others of that era , we are lumbered with idiots like twatwell and some refs that think they are bigger than the game !I think if you across most boards people will be bemoaning poor decisions rightly or wrongly there seem to be more and more contentious decisions these days , we have the tech available and whereas most other sports embrace it as an aid to improve the percentage of correct decisions Football is being its luddite self and pretending there is no problem ! Refs lose respect amongst the fans with bad decisions ,surely they should have all available tools out there too help them!
Clive Thomas commanded respect? Ask Ipswich, Everton, Dutch or Brazilian fans what they think of him. Ask players like Bryan Hamilton, Johann Cruyf and Zico what they think of him - they're the ones who suffered from his decisions in high profile matches. If you want to hold him up as a beacon of refereeing excellence, then you must surely accept the argument that refs are only human and are therefore prone to making mistakes - it's a human frailty which, IMO, we just have to accept. After all, it adds to the post-match banter that we all enjoy.
Dont remember Clive giving any ghost goals! For me thats a good start! A sending off used to be a rarity (funnily enough when there was a lot more contact) Now its nearly the norm ! Clive didnt have any of the tech available that we do have now!
Cmon whats the average fan say at the Vic when we they learn twatwells the ref! something like oh no!!?
Don't know how the technology works and how quickly it can relay a decision to the referee - I certainly wouldn't want to see stoppages in games every time a team thinks that the ref. should consult his machine, he does need to retain a certain disgression in this. Also, a couple of questions here. How much does a referee earn at our level - and are most of them fully pro. as in the Premiership ?
Cologne I think the speed issue was a very valid one , but with the faster improved technology and comms I dont think it would be a big problem all it needs is a fourth official with access to a live feed(similar to the new screens at the Vic) He watches in real time and can rewind and review quickly! He is in contact with the ref and linos ! It shouldnt take to long to sort a pen decision a ball crossing the goal line incident or sending off incidents! the memory and processing speeds that drive our gadgetry these days are incredible and improving week by week!
Thanks 2RJ - hadn't a clue who the ref was, but my point was that ghost goals did exist back then, the difference being that that one was in our favour.
I think a system like the one they have in Tennis would be more than good enough. Let the captain decide if he wants to challenge a decision made by a ref, and give him say max. of 2 challenges per game that way we know we'll only see at most 4 stoppages a game.
Personally, the only technology they could bring in is goal line. The rest is generally down to the opinion of a referee. What the referee on the pitch thinks is a foul, someone else may not, even after both consulting the technology. It has to be a definite technology, and I can only see goal-line being such, as it's either over the line, or not. Other sports it's the same. Rugby - is it a try or not? They cannot consider anything leading up to the try. Tennis - is the ball in or out? Goal-line shouldn't effect the game too much as you don't really get that many, but enough for it to be brought in!
