It's really hard to tell as that map's not accurate enough, the distances between Cottingham, Brough, Beverley and Market Weighton all seem out of wack, so Rowley/Hunsley remains my best guess(and I live there).
Found it. I think. It's an area called "Braffords". I know of Brafords farm out that way. You need to zoom in, but it looks the same shape to me. I wonder why it's included and not the other bits? It's Swanland in effect. "BRAFFORDS, (the seat a Robert Osborne, Esq.) in the township of Swanland, and parish of North-Ferriby; 3 miles N. of North Ferriby, 7½ miles from Hull." A little teeny bit more about Robert Osborne http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=...nepage&q=East Riding Parish Braffords&f=false http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ERY/Northferriby/index.html
I don't have much of an opinion either way, but if the worst thing about our fine city is that the name rhymes with the word 'dull', it can't be all that bad. I say the same thing when people make fish jokes (there is no fishing trade and when there was, it was a good thing anyway) Rhyming Hull with Dull, that's playground stuff. Nearly as cringeworthy as the numpties who text into sportstalk every night to point out that 'Airlie' rhymes with 'Girly' and 'Robins' rhymes with 'Dobbins', whatever that even means.
Braffords is near where I said, it's basically Raywell. Braffords Hall was Guy Rawson's house(as in Rawson's the butchers)
I would have called it Raywell, but the map shows Raywell as being the bit next to it. It looks like the wooded area used for cycling now and the scout place...doesn't it?
There's nothing wrong with the name Hull at all, but Kingston sounds better IMO and it's confusing why Kingston has been mostly ignored even though it's the accurate name of the city while Hull is the accurate name of the river.
According to a story my grandad often told me. Harold Needler's first plan was to set up a football club in the East of Hull after WW2, one that would be a rival for City in West Hull. Therefore there could have been two professional clubs in Hull today. When the owners of City (don't know who they were) were made aware of the idea, they invited and/or convinced Harold to join the City board and invest his doe in HCAFC, and the rest is history as they say.....
I can't recall all of the detail, so much of this will be inaccurate, but I recall reading something about a football club that played on the land near Haworth pub that's now Endlseigh convent. The Club was bought out by what became Hull KR so they could have a base. The football club reformed, eventually to become Hull City. So, North Hull's the spiritual home of sport in Hull.
I do believe there was actually another football club in the city for a while, can't remember the details but think it was called Hull United. Not sure if it was set up and never survived or was just being set up then got the chop. Can't find any reference online or through books that I have so I can't offer a link.
I can't say I've heard of a Hull United. Hull Town's been mentioned. I think the team KR bought was called Albany FC? I reckon some on here will know, there's a few that could have played for them if the call up for Sebastopol hadn't got in the way.
I'm sure Mrs.BMB said her husband told her Hull City was originally Albany FC and it's documented that before forming into Hull Cty in 1904 they were known as The Comets.
You could be right, I thought Albany merged with others, so it's difficult to say which was the original 'Hull City'. Wasn't the Comets the nickname rather than a team? Was it on Beverley Road? Albany seems an odd name for Haworth junction though.
Yes thats what I meant, they were nicknamed The Comets as we are now The Tigers. I don't know about the Albany part, I thought it might have been Anlaby but apparently not.
This Dutch guy here seems to have put a decent site together that includes a page about us. I don't know where he's sourced from but it seems better than most.
Interesting site. Needler had some radical ideas like wanting to change the colours to orange blue and white, he even had those colours on the cover of the programmes. Here's another one that confirms the city's origins. http://www.anlabyroad.com/history/anlaby-road-history-01.html
The site emphasises how we've grown in isolation to west and north Yorkshire and their welsh origins, whereas we're linked more with Europe and the Parisii. What it doesn't show is Wykes origins though. Wyke was itself a collection of hamlets. Which accounts for the air on a G string and our bite being worse than our Bach. The three crowns logo's interesting as it shows the strong links to mainland Europe brought about by our trading links. We tend to have more in common with Europe than we do with London. At least ironically, we did until the EEC came about. The nearest ground by road, (as in the shortest drive) to the KC is Feyenoords.
Very interesting stuff, here's another link with an aerial photo of the circle/football ground http://footballgroundguide.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=22733
And. Here's me, I was reluctant to post what my novel is about. The change from the female led worship of the goddess Maa, to male dominated religions. When we stopped being hunter gatherers and became farmers. I should have known better, Everything has a place on this forum!
