It's hilarious that you believe a couple of 'scientists' with an agenda and yet completely ignore all those who argue against what you are saying. The few vague lines in the Qu'ran in no way accurately explain embryology. You and your fellow Muslims try and link science to extraordinarily vague passages and then claim a transcendental nature to it. It's nonsense. The Qu'ran as a science book! Don't make me laugh. Let's see its scientific insights published in peer-reviewed journals then. You believe that Allah is omniscient and omnipresent. Do you not think he could have knocked out a few more detailed scientific explanations - you know, a bit better than the ones already posited by the ancient Greeks? It's just amusing that with every scientific discovery the Qu'ran suddenly offers previously unknown explanations of them. Amazing. The Big Bang, an expanding universe, atoms, molecules, genetics, blah-de-blah. All of them are suddenly clearly explained in a handful of extremely vague religious verses. Well, I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but any amount of spluttering nonsense from a Muslim doesn't actually make this true.
Oh right, so a couple of out of context quotes is supposed to be proof now (one of which seems to have been made by a man researching the Quran - a believer, I take it)? These aren't insights into highly complex scientific issues, these are vague references to even vaguer verses in the Qu'ran said by people who are more than likely not exactly experts on what passed for medical knowledge in ancient Greece or on what is actually in the Qu'ran either. I mean seriously, this quoting business is ******ed. Look at your last quote for crying out loud. Remind me where he said that. Ah yes, Saudi Arabia. We can all go on the internet and find quotes that make exactly the opposite point. Do you get it?
they are not muslim you numpty As explained the specifics were not known to the greeks. Unless you can provide evidence of greek views on embroyology that agree with modern views I wont even go into the fact that some 'discoveries' by say the greeks didnt get into arabia until much later anyway
A couple? These are well known and respected people their peers are using their books and teaching todays doctors etc In the case of moore his work is definately used today The ancient greeks were wrong as we found out in the 20th century, the quran was accurate. unless you can provide evidence to the contrary They were previously not verified, as WE did not have the technology. The dying/birth of stars was only made possible due to HUBBLE, and only recently has science admitted the expansion of the universe Prior to this people like you laughed at these too, yet they came to transpire
out of context? their speaches are widely available on youtube or easily googled etc These are experts in their field from different places of the world and different backgrounds, yet they agree Non of these things were foretold or explained by the greeks in terms of accuracy and what we know now experts have reviewed the main embryological ideas found in the writings of the ancient Indians, Hippocrates, Aristotle, Galen, and Jewish scriptures, and compared these to the embryological development stated in the verses of the Qur'an. Guess what no similarities check them out yourself
the main embryological ideas found in the writings of the ancient Indians, Hippocrates, Aristotle, Galen, and Jewish scriptures, and compared these to the embryological development stated in the verses of the Qur'an. There are no similarities. The Qur'anic ideas on embryology are completely different in terms of style, content and accuracy. The process is in the quran is more than 3 lines, It would be heavy reading to go into detail. This is not saying I wont, i certainly can. It may be wiser for you to google a simplified version. Even look at Prof Moores description
Oh, good grief. You quote three people. THREE. There are plenty of so-called respected scientists that come out with stuff at some stage of their careers that is ridiculed by their peers. Do you think this sort of clap-trap gets traction with their colleagues? What do you expect someone to say at a conference in Saudi Arabia? For starters, what is he doing at a conference blathering on about the Quran? How about a bit of background? You know, context. The amazing insights on embryology that you so loudly trumpet centre on this, don't they? âThen We made the Nutfa into a Alaqa; then of that Alaqa We made a Mudga; then we made out of that Mudga bones and clothed the bones with flesh;â Stunning. Or not.
are you trying to be stupid or does it come naturally? I am prepared to go through it with you if you wish. Its quite lengthy is all it goes into specifics such as 1. Man is not created from the entire semen, but only a very small portion of it (sperm). 2. It is the male that determines the sex of the baby. 3. The human embryo adheres to the mother's uterus like a leech. 4. The embryo develops in three dark regions in the uterus. and the same thing is revisited in different surah eg He has created both sexes, male and female from a drop of semen which has been ejected. (Qur'an, 53:45-46) Wasn't he a drop of ejaculated sperm, then an embryo which He created and shaped, making from it both sexes, male and female? (Qur'an, 75:37-39) There is the phrase "fee thulumaatin thalaathin," translated into English as "a threefold darkness," indicates three dark regions involved during the development of the embryo. These are: a) The darkness of the abdomen b) The darkness of the womb c) The darkness of the placenta confirmed by modern biology It speaks of the menstrual period, the pregnancy and birth , the sequence of organ development where do you want me to start?
what number is enough? That was just 3 examples about 1 thing. The list is endless with a variety of topics as for the rest good grief where are you getting your info from? because its deluding you the embroyo development is in 3 main parts •Nutfah: This refers to the beginning of embryonic development and covers the period from the mixing of male and female secretions to the implantation of the zygote into the uterus. During this phase the unicellular zygote continues to divide and assumes a more complex shape. •Khalaqna or Takhliq: This is the second phase of embryonic development, or period of organogenesis. It begins with the third week and ends with the eighth week of pregnancy. It involves further cell division and differentiation into human organs and systems. It is divided into several sub stages ‘Alaqa, Mudgah, Izam and Lahm. Each of these terms describes the embryo in a precise and comprehensive manner •Ansha'na or Nash'ah: This is the third and final phase of foetal development. Rapid cell division, differentiation, and growth leads to the formation of a definite human shape,
It doesn't matter because the Qu'ran is infallible, so you must be wrong. End of discussion, apparently.
what here is 1 verse [We] then formed the drop into an embryo and formed the embryo into a lump and formed the lump into bones and clothed the bones in flesh; and then brought him into being as another creature. Blessed be Allah, the Best of Creators! (Qur'an, 23:14) Until very recently, embryologists assumed that the bones and muscles in an embryo developed at the same time. Yet, advanced microscopic research conducted by virtue of new technological developments has revealed that the revelation of the Qur'an is word for word correct.
