Swansea were robbed, the Graham penalty was even more obvious than Fryatt's yesterday, I'm getting really pissed off with ref's deciding more games than players this season.
Swansea are so boring to watch with their tippy tappy style of play. Lee Probert is a t*sser - had the misfortune to go to Blackburn away freezing cold night match in Feb or something in our second season in the PL when that idiot thought he should be the centre of attraction and sent off George Boateng. He even looks a pr*t.
Suprised nobody has had a go at Howard Webb after the Mackem v Everton match. Shocking decision. Reminded me of Burnley (2nd season in the premier league) where he tripped over his own bloody feet.
Was arguing against the ref deciding the outcome rather than been crap. Struggle to think of a ref who isn't crap.
I came across an article this morning, that showed last seasons Premier League table, but with the referring mistakes rectified. The league would have finished Man United, Arsenal and Chelsea as the top three(with Man City 4th) and the three relegated teams would have been Wolves, Wigan and West Ham(Wolves having finished bottom).
I saw a similar table from our first PL season that would have had us finishing 14th, with Newcastle safe and Stoke relegated.
Those sorts of things are pointless. It's all part of the game and part of the luck. Sometimes the ref makes a mistake, sometimes the defender makes a mistake, sometimes the striker makes a mistake.
I'd tend to agree with that, I see Swansea as comfortably the least likely to stay up of the promoted sides. I think defensively they look decent with caulker, williams, and rangel but they don't offer much more than that
After his horrendous decision to send off Gary Cahill @ Spurs recently, I see that yesterday Stuart Attwell was at it again when he was the ref. in the Arsenal v. Wolvers game, by sending off Wolvers Milijas for what was a superb tackle. Good that Wolvers are appealing as that should be overturned just as Cahills was. How that man still gets to ref. in the PL is beyond me.
Probert along with Atwell is a complete clown when it comes to officiating, no suprise he's dropped another clanger.
did you osman appealing tho!..not sticking up for the ref, but doesnt help when there a cheating bastard appealing like that..
I always think Clattenburg does a good job when he refs us, in that he doesn't follow the usual refereeing trends of letting the players run the game. He actually takes charge and does well. Trouble is because he's one of the best ones the media like to home in on everything he does and they make out he's making mistakes left, right and centre. One of the worst ones I've seen recently was Sebb Larsson's dive for Sunderland against Wolves I think it was. He leaped over the defender's leg about a yard away from any contact and somehow won a penalty, that's one area where the refs are usually quite good but the ref fell for this one. He mised the penalty and Wolves scored seconds later, so that became the talking point rather than the appalling dive and decision.
I hate threads about how **** refs are. They have an impossible job made worse by the amount of cheating that goes on constantly by "professionals" plus the ****s on Sky and ****s like Feguson bullying them every chance they get.
I agree they have a difficult job and not one that many of us envy and they're only human and have to make a decision there and then. But some of the decisions they make at times such as those mentioned above beggars belief sometimes and you don't need the benefit of a replay or anything the crowd see to make the correct decision. Like most people involved in football they are open to criticism.
They have a job which is difficult at times but what everyone with your argument ignores is that people don't get annoyed at refs about the difficult decisions. People get pissed off because they do have the ability to spot sneaky dives and close calls on fouls, but they mess up on stupid little things, inconsistent interpretations and simple things over-complicated by taking into account where they happened on the pitch. Any collisions in the box always goes to the defending team, any occasion where the 'keeper misses the ball must be a foul. These things have become so normal that no one bats an eyelid when it happens now. The refs are gradually making new unwritten rules. Then there's the ones who think 20,000 people have paid to see them and not a game of football, and just absorb as much attention as possible stopping the game every few seconds. We've had one good ref this season, is that good enough?
