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Fan's Generic Anti-Western, Religion and Politics Thread

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by thefanwithnoname, Dec 21, 2011.

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should this generic thread stay

Poll closed Feb 28, 2012.
  1. No

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  2. Yes

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  1. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    and?

    as I said death is the only guarantee in life, and whats to be nervous about I know its coming
     
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  2. Bik

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    No, you don't. You don't even understand what it is. What you believe in is something that is written in the Qu'ran. For whatever reason, you don't seem willing or able to elaborate on what that is, but it's pretty clear from what you have said that it shares little in common to the theory of evolution.
     
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  3. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    you havent had a case
     
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  4. PleaseNotPoll

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    Chance is not the opposing theory to a creator.
    You're creating a false dichotomy.

    There's nothing to suggest that matter and energy haven't simply existed in some form for eternity.
    There's also nothing to suggest that any creator would necessarily be the one that you claim exists, either.
     
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  5. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    If you care to look I have explained it tenfold, not my fault you choose to ignore it

    What I disagree with is species jumping
     
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  6. Bik

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    You don't say. The point was that believers and non-believers were wiped out. It wasn't an issue of piety because I rather doubt the muslims who died in Indonesia are any less pious than most other muslims around the world. What you chose to believe is that some creator is having fun wiping out innocents around the world as he sees fit. I, on the other hand, believe it was a natural occurrence, a view supported by actual evidence. Do you see the difference? You are just expressing your belief, a belief devoid of evidence. Why, oh why, is it so difficult to admit that?
     
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  7. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    I know you havent, because you are confusing the two

    I go back to my initial request, tell me what it is?
     
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  8. Bik

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    I haven't chosen to ignore anything. I've read your posts. They just don't make sense.
     
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  9. PleaseNotPoll

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    There's no such thing.
    You suggest that evolution would expect a dog to suddenly turn into a cat with that title.
     
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  10. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    It is with these guys.
    Also it is not a false dichotomy, either there is a creator or there isnt

    There is nothing to suggest that there is either, the only straight answer without ifs/buts and maybes I have seen are in the quran
    What claim have I made in terms of what creator exists?
     
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  11. Bik

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    My case is that you don't have a clue what you're talking about, that your arguments are infantile, that nothing you say is backed up by evidence, and that you are simply repeating the same things ad nausea. You obviously like posting, you just don't like posting reasoned arguments.
     
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  12. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    you have made many assumptions there

    The muslims who were pious have nothing to fear, they were being pious to gain a place in Jannah and have achieved their goal thanks to the creator
     
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  13. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    hence my disagreement with it
     
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  14. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    methinks thats what you are doing

    I specifically requested stuff and you insist on talking bubbles

    as they say put up or shut up
     
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    Not true.
    You'd have to prove that something was created in order for it to be true.

    We've never seen matter or energy either created or destroyed.
    That's clear evidence.
    Sorry.

    Straight answers aren't necessarily correct ones, especially if you're willing to accept utter vagueness as a straight answer.

    You're a Muslim.
    That comes with it's own set of beliefs about what the creator is or isn't.
    If you disagree, then according to your own claims, you're not a Muslim.
     
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  16. Bik

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    Anyway, there's no point in continuing with this. You believe in what a book says. No amount of evidence will change that apparently. You clearly don't require evidence to make your arguments. You just say them according to what is written in a book. A book. A book written by people. People who lived 1400 years ago.
     
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  17. PleaseNotPoll

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    What?
    It doesn't say that's what happened.
    Are you saying that's actually what did happen or are you having trouble reading again?
     
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  18. thefanwithnoname

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    again with the assumptions. Ok explain to me what a muslim sees as the creator being
     
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  19. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    excuse me?

    I disagree with species jumping as you seem to
     
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  20. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    which explains things that it was not possible to know then and science has recently discovered
    thats correct

    see ya
     
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