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Fan's Generic Anti-Western, Religion and Politics Thread

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by thefanwithnoname, Dec 21, 2011.

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should this generic thread stay

Poll closed Feb 28, 2012.
  1. No

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  2. Yes

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  1. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    Islam is a way of life not a religion as such

    and as mentioned We have been foryunate enough to observe the existence of Muhammad and also subsequent things from the quran

    We have also observed that things need a creator
     
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  2. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    No, it isn't.


    No, it isn't.

    No, it didn't.

    Are you ****ing kidding me?
    Is this your new response whenever anyone posts anything that you can't answer?

    <doh>

    Even you must realise that you're just talking drivel now, Fan.
    It's embarrassing.
     
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  3. Bik

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    You've been told in a book...
     
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  4. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    We've never observed anything being created, only altered from one thing into another thing.
     
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  5. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    The quran is/has/was observed and hasnt changed
    religion has been observe too

    I gave you the finches as an example as you asked for what I meant by halfway, nothing to do with apes at the time. you have ignored that. can you answer it?

    Inthe same way as the finches beaks would have had stages so would ape to man, so it goes without saying thta at some point there would have been a halway point, half ape features half man

    You ipick anyone, or take the first one, and show me the fossil record
     
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  6. Bik

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    People 'observed' Jesus before your prophet...

    And no, we haven't observed that things need a creator.
     
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  7. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    Allah is creator, we have observed all things need a creator
     
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  8. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    by golly youre right

    the earth doesnt exist
     
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  9. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    ape turns to man and you say that isnt shape shifting?

    I am not kidding at all, you claim I dont understand then explain. or can you not?

    how is it embarrassing?
     
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  10. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    like shapeshifting?
     
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  11. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    so? the question was about Islam wasnt it?

    so things appear by magic?
     
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  12. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    The Quran has changed, though.
    It didn't even exist during Mohammed's lifetime, so it's contents were never confirmed by the person who 'revealed' it.

    Nobody debates the existence of religion.

    Your finch thing was a self-confessed inaccurate example.
    What were you asking me to do with it?

    <doh>
    That's not how evolution claims that things happen.
    Read a book.

    You haven't even looked at the link, so no.
     
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  13. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    This is like discussing football with somebody that won't accept the concept of a sport.
    What's the point?
     
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  14. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    I promise you I opened the link

    you cant thats the reason for your response
     
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  15. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    You came into this conversation, so chose to do so

    you can choose to leave too.

    we have observed and seen football and there is evidence of it, that is the difference
     
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  16. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    That's not the commonly held belief, is it?

    You said that religion had been observed.
    Nobody's debating the existence of religion, so what's your point?

    Nobody's claiming that they would have.

    When have I said that?
    Evolution doesn't suggest that there should have been a creature that looked halfway between an ape (which one?) and a modern human, as you've said.

    No you haven't.
    The first thing on the list was Eukaryote.
    Even you wouldn't have asked for a halfway stage between man and some cells.
     
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  17. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    <laugh> You really don't see how you're contradicting your entire belief system or engaging in massive hypocrisy here, do you? <laugh>
     
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  18. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    So show me the fossil evidence of Eukaryote becoming man
    I opened the link as I said
    and I never asked for halfway stages between anything this time, I asked for fossil proof of it changing
     
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  19. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    tbh I dont see it, would you care to explain?

    As far as I am concerned I was having a conversation and some people decided to engage. Fine. The same people then ask the question whats the point?

    So leave, its simple. Leave those who see a point in continuing
     
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  20. Bik

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    The point being that books saying things were observed doesn't actually make it so.

    That's what you argue, not me.
     
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