Let's look at the future Clubs will have to be financially feasible, I.e they will have to operate without vast funds injected by someone who just robbed his countries population of all their intrinsic wealth You can't have a club run as a business up against an amateur, 'pay to play' organisation Uefa rules are already in place to force teams to compete as businesses, it's the future So, when Fergie retires and United look at their debt? Oohh no more stupid spending Chelsea to compete without anual injections of free cash? They spent 70 million and are still **** This era was temporary, in the future, you gotta run a business, sugar daddies will likely be up against a tribunal in some cold cold place or dome hot hot desert All I say to all is this Arsene knows
You know what I mean When I mention this to real life friends, they walk away Why do you think I am on a public forum? We have operated how everyone will have to going forward
ohh, nice to see you can stop acting the "big'un" and talk with maturity, Out of interest, which subject is your degree in? I'm studying business...
Try and keep it civil chaps. The OP was about Arsenal dominating the next 20 years. Personally I think we've got to win something first before we can start talk about dominating. But I agree that when UEFA financial fair play rules come in, Arsenal are in a good position, not just financially, but with a culture of bringing home grown players through the ranks. Wenger saw this coming years ago, partly driven by our stadium move and partly by his own philosophy - our club has paved the way for the model of the future.
Well articulated Piskie New era coming round the corner, big changes, not many clubs in top half ready for this
I can't see this ruling making a huge impact on the current ways of life in the EPL, I bet there's some sort of clever loop hole the big spenders will "conveniently find"....BUT.... If the FA do bring in this strict ruling I think you could be forgetting a certain Newcastle United who also have a very good accounts book at the moment and I think it could be the best in the league with Arsenal following us closely. Tried finding the recent table that was released with transfer incomes and outgoings. Yes, clearly Arsenal are a better team now and would be odds on favourite to acheive success quickly but I wouldn't rule out a Newcastle/Arsenal rivalry forming if the new ruling comes in.
DeVries I understand what Arsene is trying to do but he badly needs a trophy. The longer the drought goes on the greater the pressure on the players. Also this 20 year dominance thing??? When Utd first won the FA Cup under Fergie in 1990 no one expected Utd to win so much over the next 20 years and they already had a great stadium, infrastructure, youth set up and of course finances. Nevertheless the success or at least the amount and length achieved by Utd is incredible. However it was never inevitable. Dominance can never be predicted.
You're spot on. And you're right about us needing to win a trophy to take the pressure off. I think this season will be a defining one at Arsenal - either we'll win something and Wenger's project will be justified or we'll end up with nothing again and be forced to change tack and buy in some proven experienced players. I don't think another season of 'building for the future' will be tolerated as well as it has been over the last five.
If Arsenal can get a trophy either this season or next then you could see a surge. It also depends of course on replacing Cesc if he leaves and sorting out that defence. Utd were always secure at the back when winning titles with the likes of Bruce, Pallister, Stam, Johnson, Rio and now Vidic. Don't really see any of the current Arsenal CB's competing with those guys. Furthermore when Utd became a major force they were the richest team by a mile. Now Arsenal face Chelsea and City. Even though the financial fair rules are in place I wouldn't hold my breath on them stopping the richest teams from getting their way.
I can't see Arsenal dominating for twenty years in the way you claim. Their revenues are only around the same level as Chelsea's, and a long way behind Uniteds. United's debt will continue to hold us back, but will not be enough to stop us spending - our cash on hand is roughly equal to Arsenals at the moment in spite of the massive ã70 million refinancing charge we paid last year. And our operating profits on football business, which are the true measure against which the FFP rules will be judged, are high enough to allow us to spend on a similar level to Arsenal. Over the next few seasons, I expect Chelsea and City will fall back in the standings as the rules finally catch up with them. Probably also Spurs, although the FFP rules may just push them to get their stadium redeveloped to around the 60,000 level and thus come closer to catching up with Arsenal in revenue terms. Chelsea and City will also sell off some of their surplus players over the next few seasons (why do you think City have only loaned out Adebayor to Real). This will give them an immediate boost in profits to help them get through the implementation phase. So for the next few seasons Utd and Arsenal are likely to continue to dominate whilst City, Chelsea and Spurs consolidate, reduce their spending, and fall a bit behind allowing clubs like Liverpool to catch back up. But in the long run, i.e. from 2015/16, once Chelsea have shed some of their old players and City flogged their surplus to cut the wage bills, you'll still be left with the same five or six clubs fighting for the title and the European places. But all clubs will be using more sustainable models based on bringing youth players through, as Utd and Arsenal have done for years now, and not on buying players like Torres and Carroll at the top of the market.
