If BR isnt going to play attacking football he should resign. I have heard all the "we pass like Barcelona crap", oops we cant score a goal. Ivor, in a previous post said it all. Get rid of Gower (mister all good passes backwards), Monk (oh he played injured but is so slow a tortoise could beat him), I think Ivor should be the manager for a day and see what team he will put out against QPR because i think it will be better than the one (i love Gower) BR will put out
There will be some that will agree with you , that's for sure . I do think Buck has got the players confused at the moment & has everyone unsure . P.S. I've never said Gower would be my first choice this season at a regular position ..... he fooled me too Lol !!
If you don't like the "pass pass pass oops" style of football you're probably going to be frustrated for years, as that's what we're going for from here on in. Sometimes we'll have the players to get at teams, but sometimes, like now, we'll struggle and have to make do with what we've got. If you hadn't a track record of, in my opinion, silly criticism of certain aspects of the team, I'd take this a bit more seriously and I'd have probably got more annoyed over it. BR resign? Don't be mad, changing manager mid-season rarely pans out well if you're doing it out of panic.
RESIGN ARE YOU MAD ! 14th in the PREMIER leauge ,were did you think we would be top ! could be a lot worse ,could be a championship side .
did i think we would beat Wolves - YES, did i think we would beat Blackburn - YES, did i think we would beat Wigan - YES - did we - NO have we scored a goal outside of the box?????? is there a player who can do that bar Dobbie and he cant get a game? i am amazed at some of the results we have so far but bitterly disappointed at some losses due to team and subs selection. totally agree with Ivors' post in a previous thread its all "this is how we played from Div 2 to the Championship, ok well and good - this isn't the Championship, if necessary change the way the team plays to combat certain sides - this is not happening - same pass, pass, pass, lose the ball crap, play ugly for a while and get some goals BR needs to have a good hard look at the sides he is sending out, was mentioned 14th in the league atm, 4 pts from relegation, something has to change
Ha, ha, Musty, manager for a day? In my dreams. Let's face it we are all keyboard managers but the real thing is far more difficult and, on the whole, Buck is doing a good job. He's made his mistakes because he's human and learning about the PL, as is the squad but the idea of getting rid is an absolute non starter. We are not far off being a sound mid table team and the correct signings should ensure that. The trouble is that we are just as close to a relegation battle and the line is very fine. I have taken issue with Buck over some of his decisions because I believe he has been wrong but I am only stating my personal opinion and will concede that Buck is in a far better position to make a call on team matters than I am. However, he does seem to be stubborn and have certain blind spots. He persistently swipes away advice/comments/constructive criticism from seasoned, experienced professionals and pundits whose experience far outweighs his own. It tends to smack of arrogance and were I in his shoes I would be sitting down and thinking very hard about what those people had to say. They have been there, seen it and done it. HE HAS NOT and his only success of any note has been with us. I would far sooner he kept his mouth shut and his eyes and ears open to take on board some of the things that have been said. I respect that he wants to be his own man but he must also understand that there are many people out there whose knowledge and experience far surpasses his own. He is just a baby in PL terms and to see him being so dismissive of the observations made by these people is purely frustrating. I would guess that even Sir A F would quietly act on any advice that had obvious credibility. You are never too old or too good to learn. One thing is glaring in terms of the team. We need a massive injection of pace and directness in our football. We know we can pass it at this level; we now have to translate this into pressure at the business end of the pitch. If our midfield refuse or cannot support the strikers, they are of no use to us. Far from scoring goals, it is rare to see them even getting off a shot. When they do, their efforts are so pitiful you have to ask yourself, how can professionals be so poor at what is a basic skill? As for our game plan, Buck's stubborn persistence with Gower, who is having a bad patch, makes me wonder if he does have a Plan B. Dobbie is being frozen out. Why? His season has been disrupted with injury so his playing time has been stop start yet he has been putting in noteworthy, goalscoring performances in the reserves. He should surely expect a start or at least an appearance when not only Gower but Allen and Britton have been a bit "iffy" of late. So he doesn't hit the ground running, well neither did Gareth Bale for a long, long time and there are others like him. Some people just take a while to find their real form. So, as far as I'm concerned, Buck moving on is a big no no. But I believe that he has to be more flexible in his thinking and I am wondering if he wouldn't benefit from having an experienced No 2 by his side with some solid PL experience.
another excellent comment Ivor. i obviously would not want BR to resign however having said that he has to wake up and smell the roses. imagine SAF giving him advice, i wonder what the starting side would be? Vorm, then i wonder
What a muppet! All the blood must be rushing to your head down there! Gower has been slated for years by loads at this club and is still doing the business in the toughest league in the world. Never ceases to amaze me at the amount of fans we have willing to put the boot in. Two seasons ago people were calling BR Brenda the tea lady and hoping the club would lose its friendlies. We are in the best league in the world and are competing, now is not the time to doubt but to get behind the team and manager. How lucky are we to have him? Win lose or draw STID.
Echo Ivor.... But let's see where we are come 5pm at the end of the Villa game. let's see how the squad is managed, how the team has been selected, what pur approach has been, how the players have responded to the load and need to get results. Not with a view to BR's position, making a change there is not an option at this point in the season, but with a view to the fitness for purpose of the squad, for an insight as to BR's recognition of reality and ability to invent something new as needed, for an idea as to how we are going to tackle the rest of the season - has the last month been a temporary let down or a settlement into our mean.
yeh lads a wind up, 4 pts from 9th, 4 pts from 18th, something has to change, 2nd worst goal scoring record, worst away record and 8 clean sheets, baffles me 21 games to go, 0-0 i doubt in all of them btw Ivor, what team would u play v QPR?
I wouldn't go too far with that one. I've seen a couple of reserve games at Parc Y Scarlets and while Swansea are happy to give reserve team game time to our bench players (Bessone, Tremmel, Richards, Beattie, Moore, Dobbie, Moras, Orlandi) the opposition has been just kids - names I've never heard of. Scoring in the reserves isn't such a big deal. I shall be watching other teams' midfield play with renewed interest over the festive period. You and others are basically advocating a more direct approach which basically involves moving the ball in a more forward direction more quickly until we score, miss, or far more likely, just lose the ball to the opposition and get hit on the counter. Not convinced that given our current squad this is the correct approach. QPR is another key home game and TBH I only expect more of the same.
I shall be watching other teams' midfield play with renewed interest over the festive period. You and others are basically advocating a more direct approach which basically involves moving the ball in a more forward direction more quickly until we score, miss, or far more likely, just lose the ball to the opposition and get hit on the counter. does it matter if its pass, pass pass lose or losing it playing direct? still losing the ball
musty i know its frustrating but to sack brendan is madness, lets be honest here we dont have many premiership players at the moment and i have no doubt that if it was not for vorm we would be in the bottom 3, We are not and that is testament to brendan getting non premiership players to up their game and you have to give credit to brendan and his players. We are one of the best passing sides in the premiership and i know its so frustrating when we see them keep the ball in their own half and pass the ball back to the defenders all the time but look at it this way, they unfortunately are not premiership strong and the players they are playing against are in most cases, and they are better at keeping our midfield at bay in our own half for most of the game. you only have to look at our possession and pass rate it is much better than most teams but its in our own half, Brendan is not stupid he is as frustrated as we are and thats why he says we want at least 6 players in january, The lads are doing their best and credit to them for keeping us out of the bottom 3, come january if everything goes to plan then we will be better prepared and will go forward more and score more goals im sure of that. The best thing as fans is to give brendan and whoever he selects to play is our 100% support and not talk about sacking or he is not good enough or he is useless and more.(im as guilty as anyone of doing that) and its frustration that makes me say these stupid things because when i analyze the games i know im wrong as they are doing the best they can....we will be just dandy at the end of the season you see we will......
Gower is presently in a bad patch. He has been subbed at half time in two recent games which emphasises the fact. I think we all appreciate that Gower has surprised us at this level and turned in some fine performances, However, this gives him no God given right to continue to be selected when he's not cutting it. He has had some pretty average games for us but continues to start - that can't be healthy or right in our situation. We do not have genuine, tested PL players in the team which means that those on the pitch have to be playing pretty near their 100%. He has not of late but he's not the only one as we've all seen. Buck has options in tactics, formation and personnel such as Kemy, Dobbie, Lita, Moore etc and it is interesting to note that Dobbie is not getting a look in. Why? Because he was a Martinez buy? I don't know but the part Dobbie played in our promotion was significant - imo far more significant than anything that Gower offered. It is being argued that Dobbie can't do it in the PL. How can anyone say that? The guy hasn't been given a run of games to get up to pace and show what he can do. If he succeeds he will create goals, score goals and save us quite a few quid in the bargain, of that I'm sure. He will undoubtedly pose a threat in and around the opposing box which I think we all want to see. I'd just like to see him given a chance. The guy loves the club and right now he's angry and hungry. A pretty good combination in my book.
Gower being pinpointed as the most creative player in Europe with a 4.39 chances created per 90 minutes played could be waste of money on a study or just a stat coincidence . . Swansea getting 16 points from the 12 games Gower started & only getting 2 points from the 5 games he didn't start could be another stat coincidence . Mark having half the 10 assists we've " created " , 5 times more than anyone else on the team could be deemed another " coincidence " . Scoring 15 goals in the 12 games Gower started & only scoring 1 goal in the 5 games Gower didn't start , coincidence ? . Any of these " Stats "on there own could be deemed a one off , but together they show a clear picture I'm afraid . At 33 years old & starting 12 of the last 13 games , this Premier League " Rookie " merely needs a well deserved rest & to get ready for more in the 2nd half of the season , no matter what he's called upon to do . I'll be a bit disappointed if he starts the next game . Although I know he'll run himself into the ground for the Swans , he's burnt out ....
