Election 2024

[Diego]

Unfortunately we seem to have now gone down the route of 'personality politics'... rather like the Yanks ...

Burnham as Prime Minister makes no sense at all on an intellectual level ... but he is the 'popular' favourite to get the gig ... and this years contestants on Love Island may actually have heard of him ... which is about as disparaging as I can get, at this point...

Absolute bollocks.
The truth of the matter is the man didn`t know his job.
How many times have you watched him being questioned on TV when his eyes and head went slightly to the right to read a prompt board with the answer on it.
A PM needs to be on top of the job (yes i know it`s hard to know everything) and be prepared to answer questions when asked but this man knew nothing about what was going on around him.

Really not sure about Burnham but know little of the other options available, at least i have heard Burnham put Raynor (the screetching harpie) in her place about building houses on the greenbelt around Stockport.

 

[Archers Road]

If the Tories had tried to pull that stunt to get Boris back in London would be a blackened shell, Khan would be holed up in Wembley Stadium surrounded by his mini army blaming the far right thugs, and still they will not accept they did not win the election, Farage won it for them by splitting the right of centre in half

None of this is true. What a strange fantasy world you live in.

 

[Welshie]

Absolute bollocks.
The truth of the matter is the man didn`t know his job.
How many times have you watched him being questioned on TV when his eyes and head went slightly to the right to read a prompt board with the answer on it.
A PM needs to be on top of the job (yes i know it`s hard to know everything) and be prepared to answer questions when asked but this man knew nothing about what was going on around him.

Really not sure about Burnham but know little of the other options available, at least i have heard Burnham put Raynor (the screetching harpie) in her place about building houses on the greenbelt around Stockport.

First time me and you have properly agreed, the sudden change of opinion on the Internet is staggering, people getting ****ing whiplash, concussions, there will have to be a nationwide 5 minute break soon so everyone can get checked ffs

Exact same thing has happened now 3 times with PMs, Boris is popular, resigned and everyone goes "man, who voted for THAT guy, everyone hated him." Bollocks, Boris was popular and sacking him DESTROYED the Tory party.

Rishi loses, makes a sad apology and suddenly the nation goes "that Rishi, he wasn't half bad" I'm sorry, but you ALL HATED him a day ago, now he's rehabilitated.

Last week at the Croatia match, the fans were chanting "Keir Starmer is a ****er" the nation was BEGGING for him to go, the collective national consensus was absolutely that Starmer has to be sacked. He cries on TV, everyone is pretending he was sound.

Keir Starmer was not just an unpopular political, Keir Starmer is the second most unpopular Western politician on earth, only the Chancellor of Germany beats him. Donald Trump polls better than Keir Starmer.

Not only that, but Keir has pegged his colours to Rachel Reeves, who is widely accepted as the most unpopular Chancellor of the past 15 years.

If you want there to be an election for the principle of it, 100%, go for it.

But if you want to change the narrative of "well, actually, Keir was OK" like just get a grip.

 

[Welshie]

Let's get something straight here, the only people to blame for the demise of Keir Starmer is the left. The likes of Wes Streeting and Lisa Nandy, who beckoned to the media all because Starmer refused to massage their ego's.

Then along comes the Artful Dodger, who wasn't even a MP, wins a Markerfield Election and suddenly that gives him a mandate to run our country.

Someone we never even voted for in the rest of country, supported by the right-wing media, and that same media will completely destroy his sorry little arse in the months ahead.

Does anyone even have a clue what he will actually do when he gets in Number 10, is his postioning just to charm people, is he going to say yes to Trump where Keir said no.

All I can see is the artful dodger leading his merry band of ****wits, Wes and Nandy, into lala land and completely out of touch with reality. They make Lammy look like the brains of ****ing Britain.

****ing hell if they aint rolling out Blair the devils child or **** loving Mandelson, they are rolling in a man who thinks he has the midus touch and on what budget would that be, and will Rachel from accounts still be in a job.

Is this really this wonderful Labour party that the lefties kept on about for the last 14 years. Anyway well done guys, you achieved your aim and help Reform move closer to the front door. You never ****ing learn.

It's like the leftie media woman said on the TV last night, the only way Keir got the hospital waiting lists down, was because they died waiting. I can only think Andy the artful dodger will do it quicker by exterminating people like a Dalek.

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Bravo!

I don't think in principle anything here is wrong, but I think there is definitely a North South divide on why Burnham is a good candidate.

It's obviously once you cross the Watford Gap people are more confused as to why he would be a good PM.

I know you want a laundry list of policies but I also have experience with you on this board so know that's bollocks

But I'll say, his conduct in the North West has always been top draw, he's always been a good MP, good cabinet minister, good representative for the area, his conduct regarding Hillsborough and how well he sort of set the precedent for how a local mayor should be the regional leader is staggering.

I think Burnham has blown the 3 London Mayor's out of the water and with less time to do so.

But again, I think calls for GE are impossible to ignore.

 

[FosseFilberto]

Absolute bollocks.
The truth of the matter is the man didn`t know his job.
How many times have you watched him being questioned on TV when his eyes and head went slightly to the right to read a prompt board with the answer on it.
A PM needs to be on top of the job (yes i know it`s hard to know everything) and be prepared to answer questions when asked but this man knew nothing about what was going on around him.

Really not sure about Burnham but know little of the other options available, at least i have heard Burnham put Raynor (the screetching harpie) in her place about building houses on the greenbelt around Stockport.

Absolute bollocks eh? ... So you think Burnham will be the contry's next PM due to his political nous, intelligence and historical achievements as an MP? - rather than the social media campaign barrage?

Go back through the wardrobe, mate ... Aslan ain't coming ...

 

[PINKIE]

If people want to know what Andy Burnham stands for, then they can check his voting record here.

Voting record - Andy Burnham MP, Makerfield

See how Andy Burnham voted on topics like Employment, Social Issues, Foreign Policy, and more.

www.theyworkforyou.com

 

[Welshie]

If people want to know what Andy Burnham stands for, then they can check his voting record here.

Voting record - Andy Burnham MP, Makerfield

See how Andy Burnham voted on topics like Employment, Social Issues, Foreign Policy, and more.

www.theyworkforyou.com

General centre left stuff tbh

 

[Welshie]

Rachel Reeves didn't attend Starmers farewell speech, nor his gathering later in the evening

But did attend Burnhams little gathering of about 200 Labour MPs.

Reeves with the daggers lol

 

[Archers Road]

I don't think in principle anything here is wrong, but I think there is definitely a North South divide on why Burnham is a good candidate.

It's obviously once you cross the Watford Gap people are more confused as to why he would be a good PM.

I know you want a laundry list of policies but I also have experience with you on this board so know that's bollocks

But I'll say, his conduct in the North West has always been top draw, he's always been a good MP, good cabinet minister, good representative for the area, his conduct regarding Hillsborough and how well he sort of set the precedent for how a local mayor should be the regional leader is staggering.

I think Burnham has blown the 3 London Mayor's out of the water and with less time to do so.

But again, I think calls for GE are impossible to ignore.

I think the consensus is that Burnham has done a good job as Mayor of Manchester. Whether that means he'll make a good PM remains to be seen.

Incidentally, if you ask most Londoners (not @Sucky ) they'll tell you Khan has done a decent job as Mayor of London. But his name's Khan, so to people who get their information from the right wing press or the sewer that is X, he's basically Vlad the Impaller

 

[PINKIE]

I think the consensus is that Burnham has done a good job as Mayor of Manchester. Whether that means he'll make a good PM remains to be seen.

Incidentally, if you ask most Londoners (not @Sucky ) they'll tell you Khan has done a decent job as Mayor of London. But his name's Khan, so to people who get their information from the right wing press or the sewer that is X, he's basically Vlad the Impaller

The vitriol for Sadiq Khan is disgusting tbh.

 

[Welshie]

I think the consensus is that Burnham has done a good job as Mayor of Manchester. Whether that means he'll make a good PM remains to be seen.

Incidentally, if you ask most Londoners (not @Sucky ) they'll tell you Khan has done a decent job as Mayor of London. But his name's Khan, so to people who get their information from the right wing press or the sewer that is X, he's basically Vlad the Impaller

I think Osama Bin Laden would be more accurate than Vlad the Impaler

 

[Citizen Kane.]

I think the consensus is that Burnham has done a good job as Mayor of Manchester. Whether that means he'll make a good PM remains to be seen.

Incidentally, if you ask most Londoners (not @Sucky ) they'll tell you Khan has done a decent job as Mayor of London. But his name's Khan, so to people who get their information from the right wing press or the sewer that is X, he's basically Vlad the Impaller

Khan has been atrocious.

So was Boris tbf.

You must be living in a different London to the rest of us.

Electric buses probably his only legacy.

 

[PINKIE]

General centre left stuff tbh

Yep nothing amazingly radical in there.

Personally I think he'll make a decent PM. He's a good communicator and at heart he's a social reformer as well as being pro business and investment.

I do agree that when a PM steps down it should trigger a GE on principle.

 

[Welshie]

Yep nothing amazingly radical in there.

Personally I think he'll make a decent PM. He's a good communicator and at heart he's a social reformer as well as being pro business and investment.

I do agree that when a PM steps down it should trigger a GE on principle.

May and Boris called them, but not immediately, people are reimagining the story a bit.

May waited a good bit of time and only called one when she was polling way ahead of Labour, not even considering one before that.

Boris also didn't call an election first, he actually attempted to illegally prorogue parliament before calling one. Again, he waited until he had a campaign narrative he knew would win.

If Burnham gets in, the precedent is to wait before calling one, if he unites the left behind a campaign he will probably win a GE.

 

[Archers Road]

Khan has been atrocious.

So was Boris tbf.

You must be living in a different London to the rest of us.

Electric buses probably his only legacy.

Where do you live? I asked you this before, and you didn't answer.

Hertfordshire, I reckon. Which would be very much a different London to the rest of us.

 

[Welshie]

Where do you live? I asked you this before, and you didn't answer.

Hertfordshire, I reckon. Which would be very much a different London to the rest of us.

Hes from a random server in Tel Aviv I think

 

[Welshie]

So far:

Reform have called for a GE.

Lib Dems have said "Not time for a GE."

Conservatives have called for Burnham to get into power ASAP, but haven't stated they want a GE.

Kemi says "winning a GE is not the same as running a country"

Zack Polanski appears to have disappeared from the face of the earth since last week.

 

[PINKIE]

May and Boris called them, but not immediately, people are reimagining the story a bit.

May waited a good bit of time and only called one when she was polling way ahead of Labour, not even considering one before that.

Boris also didn't call an election first, he actually attempted to illegally prorogue parliament before calling one. Again, he waited until he had a campaign narrative he knew would win.

If Burnham gets in, the precedent is to wait before calling one, if he unites the left behind a campaign he will probably win a GE.

Yep, they waited and like you say, Boris tried to prorogue parliament to avoid the heat.

Don't remember Liz the lettuce calling a GE either.

I think Burnham should, but obvs not straight away. He needs to set out his stall first, get the party onside and then communicate his plan to the public.

Calling a GE now would just add even more chaos to an already uncertain Govt.

 

[Citizen Kane.]

Where do you live? I asked you this before, and you didn't answer.

Hertfordshire, I reckon. Which would be very much a different London to the rest of us.

Hertfordshire doesn't count as London

I'm from Norf London, not far from the emptiest trophy cabinet in the world.

My area has seen a rise in theft, stabbings, sexual assault, potholes, house prices, vape shops, homelessness, drug abuse, council tax and shuttered derelict shops in the past decade.

So yes, things are certainly looking up under our benevolent mayor.

 

[PINKIE]

Hertfordshire doesn't count as London

I'm from Norf London, not far from the emptiest trophy cabinet in the world.

My area has seen a rise in theft, stabbings, sexual assault, potholes, house prices, vape shops, homelessness, drug abuse, council tax and shuttered derelict shops in the past decade.

So yes, things are certainly looking up under our benevolent mayor.

That's God punishing you for being a Spurs fan