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The Hornets' Nest II

Discussion in 'Watford' started by geitungur akureyrar, Nov 16, 2011.

  1. Hornette_TID

    Hornette_TID Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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  2. Norwayhornet

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    All for driving out racism ,although , I cant help thinking we have gone to far down the politically correct road ! Consider for a mo, effectively 2 guys punished for name calling!, Ol redknapp `s dodgy dealings nearly took pompey to the wall (yeah I know there are other factors) the players have been charged yet Redknap, dodgy agents and dodgy owners are untouched!!
     
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  3. Norwayhornet

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    Suarez gets 8 game ban for calling evra a black c***, If he would have just called him a c*** things would be ok ! , That and are players these days that thin skinned!
    there are some things going on here that dont stack up! This could easily blow up into another FA led farce!
     
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  4. babyhornetdan

    babyhornetdan Well-Known Member

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    Thats not true. Suarez was banned for multiple use of the term "Negrito" which is obviously a spanish variation of the word "negro" which we know was the term for blacks for many years. He says that its common place in spanish speaking countries. Thats where the problems lie, you have Suarez speaking Spanish/bad English, Evra speaking French/bad English so things are easily misinterpreted.

    Terry is the one who can clearly be seen calling Anton Ferdinand a "black C U Next Tuesday".

    [NSFW][video=youtube;z0z_Y2dk-aQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0z_Y2dk-aQ&feature=related[/video][/NSFW]
     
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  5. wear_yellow

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    Terry will not face the courts for 12 months or even longer - they will get it postponed time after time, again and again. Look at long it has taken 'onest 'arry to get to court....for me Terry should not be allowed to play for England until he has had his time in court. Yeah, I know innocent until proven guilty, but the scum-bag has brought shame on the England shirt too many times - if the FA are serious about cleaning up football they should was the hands of Terry, but we all know they will not!
     
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  6. Norwayhornet

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    You get my point though Dan even if I mixed them up! We cant call a south american a spic anymore I suppose! Things have gone mad epecially when tax payers money is being spent on prosecution of someone calling someone else a C*** imagine if that applied to everyone at work tomorrow , How long would it take for the legal system to get through it! I think some folk need to"man"up , Blimey the stuff we were called in the military !! The amount of times I`m called an Engelsk C*** at work ! I think Evra and the like should grow up!
     
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  7. Norwayhornet

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    W-y totally agree ref Terry ,I dont care about the name calling , but shagging your mates girl is well out of order!
     
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  8. babyhornetdan

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    I do agree, but i would hope that Terry gets every book thrown at him. The issue is what do they charge him with. They are going to have to be very careful and be sure to get the right charge.
     
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  9. Norwayhornet

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    Ref Terry court 1st Feb Magistrates court Max penalty £2500 ,which is peanuts to him and costs the taxpayer a lot more to enforce!
     
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  10. wear_yellow

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    Thing is Norway, we all know it goes on in certain environments, but in others it is just not acceptable - double standards? yes it certainly is, but that is the way of the world.....I think you would find it very different working back in the UK these days, if an employee creates a complaint then employers have to act as they risk big compo claims if they do not.
     
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  11. wear_yellow

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    It will be postponed as he will be playing in the Champions League and then he will ask for it to go to Crown Court, then he will change QC's, then he will have the Euro's, then he will have his deserved holiday, then, then, then....
     
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  12. Norwayhornet

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    True enough ! I suppose W-y and has the UK really gone so soft in the last 6 yrs?
     
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  13. aberdeenhornet

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    I'm fluent at Spanish and one of my wifes nephews who happens to be black is referred to as "El Negro", negrito is literally little black and a term of endearment not insult. The worlds gone mad and our anglo saxon PC goes way to far....
     
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  14. babyhornetdan

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    Like i say, it depends on what the CPS charge him with. There are several choices of which these are 2

    Racially Aggravated Harassment
    A person guilty of an offence falling within subsection (1)(a) above shall be liable—
    (a)on summary conviction, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding six months or to a fine not exceeding the statutory maximum, or to both;
    (b)on conviction on indictment, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years or to a fine, or to both.

    Harassment alarm or distress
    A person is guilty of an offence if he—
    (a)uses threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour, or disorderly behaviour

    (6) A person guilty of an offence under this section is liable on summary conviction to a fine not exceeding level 3 on the standard scale. (£1000)

    http://www.cps.gov.uk/news/fact_sheets/racially_aggravated_offences/
     
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  15. aberdeenhornet

    aberdeenhornet Well-Known Member

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    I charge him with being "a tw*t faced racist c*nt" a charge that cannot be denied!!!
     
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  16. babyhornetdan

    babyhornetdan Well-Known Member

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    That what Suarez said. He said that it was a friendly term and never meant to insult. I cant remember half of the Spanish GCSE, but even i can figure out that there is no offence there!! Evra just did not like having the micky taken
     
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  17. Norwayhornet

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    SSN stating that whilst its at magistrates level the highest penalty in a £2500 fine Dan! Obviously if he loses, appeals and takes it further then the penalty rises!
    He has been charged racially aggravated abusive behaviour!, like I said calling some one a Black c*** ,if he would have omitted the black , thinds wouldnt have gotten so stupid!
     
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  18. Norwayhornet

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    Then Evra and Ferdinand should grow up and not spit the dummy out!
     
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  19. babyhornetdan

    babyhornetdan Well-Known Member

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    That is what i said. He has been charged with a variation of racially aggravated harassment.
    Ferdinand has every reason to be pissed off. He was genuinely abused by Terry where as Suarez seems to have been using a friendly term. The same way as Scots use Jock, and the Aussies use Pom.
     
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  20. Bolton's Boots

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    Fairly simple theo - it's because whenever teams play the Hornets, the odds on them losing shorten. :)
     
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