I can't understand why rival fans are crying their little eyes out over Wayne Rooney, I thought he was rubbish anyway? Oh no sorry we can't win without him can we
I know that it was a unbelievable moment for some of "us". But, we've got a big game tomorrow and we surely need to be focusing on that a bit more.
We're not crying our eyes out because Rooney got away with it. Most fans of others teams half expected that the FA wouldn't do their jobs. Personally I hoped they would but I was wrong. The FA are crap and Rooney has been allowed to get away with assault and there is nothing we can do about it. McCarthy could file a civil action and would undoubtedly win as there is plenty of evidence on his side, but no doubt he won't because unlike Rooney he is a man and will take it on the chin and move on. The reason there have been loads of fans from other teams on here attempting to discuss the issue is because of idiots like Jordan who visit other teams boards and gloat at the fact that your thug has gotten away with it. And whilst there he takes the opportunity to generally abuse the members of that board. If you don't like us visiting then i suggest you take the issue up with Jordan and point out to him that he is a stupid child and a disgrace to your club and humanity in general.
Are you serious? Can you imagine if McCarthy did that and won? There'd be players suing right left and centre! Shearer, Keown, Gerrard, Drogba, Barton, Keane, Thatcher and Hartson would all have to pay out thousands! I mean are you seriously gonna compare Rooney to one of these? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_8b1pd3Mas&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_st29mlQwU&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss_7WGYa9nQ
I get fed up with fans of rival teams all screaming injustice if one of our players gets away with something whilst ignoring that players from other teams have got away with similar things. There is no conspiracy or favouritsm as many pathetically try and claim, it is just the FA being their usual inconsistent selves and upholding their ridiculous rules.
Where did I mention conspiracy or favouritsm? I think the FA is equally inept for all clubs. I merely said that if you don't like fans of other teams coming to your board to take issue with you then you should consider the inappropriate actions of your own members. Jordan is the main reason you have received loads of frustrated fans from other boards on here today and is the primary reason you felt the need to start a thread entitled "why are they so bothered?".
I was referring to rival fans in general, not just yourself. Look at the 606 boards, the bitterness towards Man Utd is extraordinary!
No they were more effective instances of assault. But the fact that Rooney did not do a very good job of it does not diminish his action in law, nor his intent. I don't think McCarthy would do it, as previously stated, and nor would I want him to. I merely pointed out that the option to do so always exists, so those Man U fans who have been so busy congratulating themselves for Rooney's reprieve should take note. The FA let him get away with it. So has your manager and in this instance the victim. But if he does it again do you think the next person he carries out a premeditated assault on will be so forgiving?
I haven't been on 606 today, but to be fair I can believe it. I know you get loads of stick as a club and most of it is a back handed compliment because you are so bloody good it winds other teams fans up. They want you to fail and enjoy any chance to have a go. But knowing this as you do, do you really need annoying toe rags like Jordan winding everybody up on top of that. Seriously I've never had a problem with your club per se, but that little annoyance is enough to turn friends into enemies and paints your whole club badly.
Well you seem quite sensible but I just get fed up with all the conspiracy and favouritism nonsense and the lack of credit from a lot of rival fans.
It's times like this when we should really appreciate the power our manager has. He fired an early warning shot across the boughs of the PL no doubt also privately reminding them that Gerrard got of scot free. Voila - no ban - Well done Sir Alex
I dunno, most players knew that when they played against Shearer, Keane, Vieira, Vinnie Jones, Neil Ruddock and others they were gonna be subjected to elbows and kicks and other premeditated assaults. But they just accepted it as part of playing against these guys. I think most players feel the same way when playing against modern players like Rooney or Drogba who sometimes do the same. And in fairness, Rooney's didn't look particularly pre meditated - he just responded to being blocked off in a stupid and hot headed way. It was nowhere near as pre meditated as Keane on Haaland, or Keown and Parlour on Van Nistelrooy.
In terms of physical players, I think being physical is fair enough. Unfortunately, some times players step over the line and Rooney certainly did that on Saturday. It annoyed me because it was just so stupid and unnecessary. I don't condone it at any time but I can understand players losing the rag when they are trailing late on in a game but against Wigan it was goalless early in the game and was inexplicable. However, the decision not to impose a retrospective ban was a correct one under the current flawed system. The FA no doubt will continue to claim that the current rules are there to protect referees. I think it has more to do with them not wanting to have to sit and review every unseen controversial incident, personally.
The FA have claimed that they had no choice but they do not show consistency in their decisions. Furthermore I would argue that their currents rules are insufficient and they are acting negligently. The police effectively surrender their remit to police the on pitch aspect of football matches to the FA (including incidents of common assault between players) under the basis that the FA will effectively police and punish offenders. In this instance as in many others the FA has failed. Premeditated assault continues to happen and often goes unpunished despite the FA having all the proof necessary that an assault has taken place. If they continue down this road eventually somebody will be badly injured and this could lead to a court case which could in turn lead to a police or high court order enforcing draconian changes to our game that could ruin it beyond imagining. In effect you are less protected on a football pitch than anywhere else in this country. At home, work, in a pub, on a rugby pitch or on the street if some idiot walked up to you and elbowed you, with witnesses and video evidence you would get justice. How stupid are the FA that they cannot see that they have the moral responsibility to take their duties more seriously and that unless they act they will eventually have the responsibility taken away and given to an organisation that will. This more than anything is what gets my goat with this issue and people who allow their own personal team bias to blind themselves to the danger to our sport and actually congratulate Ferguson for manipulating the situation in your favour are foolish in the extreme. As for the FA I don't have the words to express my contempt for them!
Not sure about that. A strong high tackle could dislocate someone's shoulders, but it happens all the time in rugby. As does punching, gouging, stamping etc, all far more commonplace in rugby I'm afraid.
More commonplace I agree, as an ex-player I can speak from experience. But we must remember that rugby is a much more physical game and is much more of a "contact" sport so instances are going to be more frequent. My point though is that the Rugby authorities will and do act upon video evidence to punish the worst offenders irrespective of whether the match officials acted upon the incident within the game. In addition they are prepared to judge each incident on its merit and punish accordingly. In my opinion this is well beyond what the FA does.
Fair enough. I don't think you are necessarily more protected in rugby, just that you are more likely to see justice done if someone does overstep the line. Just as you are much more likely to be punched on the street than you are on a football pitch, hence you are less protected, but again if something like that did happen in public and it was witnessed and recorded, you'd be more likely to get justice.
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