Sky, do you really think Liverpool would want to publically be seen to be defending a racist? Seriously? Liverpool have much more to lose through their actions defending Suarez than just losing a player for a few games...
You are entitled to your opinion mate. I think that at this time we need to reserve judgment as branding someone a racist should not be done with such little thought and especially with such little evidence. I feel the same about defending him, I'm not going to go all out support Suarez, as careful thought and consideration needs to taken in a situation like this. Something the FA seem to have missed.
I really do hope that Suarez gathers up all the newspapers tomorrow and gets ready to sue them all for defamation as well as demanding an apology. The Daily Fail's heading being "RACIST". I don't think they realise (no surprise considering their IQ is probably the same as the number on the back of Evra's shirt) how damaging it can be to be branded a racist and how evil those who really racists really are and can be.
I really do hope you are never released from the institution. On a lighter note can we still use the word ******?
I made this post 16/11/2011 bit of a prophecy if you ask me... Unlucky for Suarez this was said/or implied to a member of the most media loved team in the country so I think he'll take a hit from the F.A just to make an example of him. JT's incident will be brushed under media carpet (it's filthy under there) That way they can seen to be taking action against Racism in football unless it's the captain of England squad in which case he'll be protected to the end of the Earth. Better for a foreigner to be seen as racist than an Englishman.
He's not a racist. He's been found guilty of making racist comments. I see what you mean about backing him though, but at this early stage I think that's the done thing for a club to do. Time will tell...
They must have given it thought and consideration though, this was hardly a knee jerk verdict. They haven't actually branded him a racist, they've charged him with making a racist comment. Mud will stick though and if it was a comment made in the heat of the moment then that wil be unfortunate. That should have been his line of defence but instead it's been he never said it or in his own country it's ok and that appears to have back fired. I know what my own hunch is but that's irrelevant. I think Liverpool are unwise to defend him having said it but are within their rights to defend his 'as a racist' if that is what they believe. I expect the ban to be reduced on appeal but for the FA to not back down completely as they have to be seen to be doing something.
Why is he a ******, by the way? We're mostly agreed (and the statement made by the FA makes this explicit) that the charge brought forward is for the use of a racist word, not for being a racist. Therefore, any headlines/articles claiming that he is a 'racist' are libel. That's the point he's making. Where is the idiocy in that?
How do you know he isn't a racist? So a rapist is convicted of rape but he is not a rapist? Sound logic lad.
Ok, but I was making reference to the 'institution' comment as well. You presume he has a mental illness, why?
True. I don't think he's a racist. But making racist comments (if he did, which seems likely due to the punishment) is not acceptable, wherever you're from and whoever you are. I don't personally buy into all this 'negrito' bullshit.... Especially as when it was alleged to have been said they were having a row. I tend to insult people when I row not call them a nice friendly local term.
Rape isn't comparable at all. If I say 'thank you God' when something good happens, am I suddenly a devout Christian? I may well actually be so (I'm not), but that singular comment doesn't qualify me as one. We're dealing with language here, not actions.
First off I will say I don't think Saurez is a racist and I don't think he intended to racially abuse Evra. But we are talking about a lad who was banned for 7 games at Ajax for biting someone and he was already globally hated for that hand ball in the WC semi final. I've said before, if Saurez was not an LFC player I probably hate him too. We all knew that we were not getting an Angel when he came here and it doesn't surprise me that he has been in so much trouble since playing for us (the finger, play actig etc). He intended to wind up Evra and unfortunately chose the wrong words, like I said I don't for one minute feel that he was trying to be racist. He was naive in cultural differences and language barriers, even if he used the word 'black' in plain English(again not an offensive insult on its own) colour should NOT be brought in to a heated duel on the pitch full stop. I support the clubs statement and believe that the 8 match ban should be challenged, but if the FA are trying to send out a message from this I can't see it being successful.
How? The backing him bit was about the club statement, not me. Making a racist comment isn't much different in my eyes to being a racist. Anyway Jatt why are you still banging on about me?
My only concern is the apparent lack of evidence, it seems it's on Evra's accusation and testimony only at this point. By giving such a heavy ban the FA are branding him a racist imo. If the FA are saying he used certain terms inappropriately and with intent then they are saying he is a racist and that is something that should not be done lightly. As usual the FA are contradicting themselves, either be firm and say they believe he was being racist or have the courage to dismiss the whole thing for its lack of evidence.
