Match Day Thread WBA v Hull City

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There was a match this season where it was documented that Jakirovic went into the design room at half time and said we might as well get on the coach now (cant remember the game, or whether we won it) and there was a c change. There was also a recent documented behind closed doors discussion that seemed to up performances. You cant get this far, even with injuries and no budget to throw it all away. So what will be said this time. I still dont see a leader on the pitch, not even McB...
 
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Lets look at facts.... and then wonder why, McBurnie since coming back, not the same player, ditto Geldhart, ditto Millar, ditto Lunsdstram... Then you take your next top scorer out (Joseph) in place of Koumas (admittedly he's scored 3) who perhaps 'has' to play. Is the amazing unity that was there up to December still there..?.. you would hope so or did January window de rail us. Admittedly losing Yu hasn't helped.

Has Dowell, Collyer, McNair made things worse..?...
Collyer’s barely played and McNair has been better than Egan and Ajayi.

What has changed is that Jakirović has switched to negative, ultra-defensive hoofball since January and has us set up like this even against teams like Blackburn, Portsmouth and West Brom (admittedly we scraped wins against the former two). Injuries have played their part but this isn’t the same team to the one before Christmas in terms of mentality. We play with fear and play as if we’re lucky to even get results against some of the ****test teams in the division.

The pundits and podcasters are actually right about our style of play and xG to an extent.
 
Typical city performance by the sounds of it, didn’t see any of it, in the boozer watching the Scot v Ire 6 nations game

Think I will swerve the footy highlights tonight
 
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With Sheff Wednesday and Oxford up next you do have to wonder A) if we'll still be in the top 6 by the time those games are done, and B) why we always seem to allow teams who've had a **** season to completely roll us over.

We deserved that. We've had that result coming for a while. We gift teams gilt edged chances every game.

Pandur - I think he's had unnecessary stick this season at times but he gifted them their first goal

Hughes - Far, far too clumsy

Millar - Shouldn't have been put in that position. He can't defend

Gelhardt - What's happened to him?

McBurnie - Has good moments of interplay but seems to have lost the ability to carve out goalscoring opportunities. That being said, where's his service gone?

Koumas - Runs around but often to little effect

Hadziahmetovic - I rate him, but he was far too casual and lightweight today for the job that needed doing

Sergei - Hit and hope tactics with a set up (against a bottom 3 side) which suggested we were hoping to come away 0-0... Very poor.
 
I really do like Serj. However, he should be pulled into Acuns office first thing Monday morning and be asked to explain multiple decisions made in this game.

Five at the back against a bottom 3 team is not okay.
Koumas looks like a competition winner and should not be anywhere near the starting 11.
Subs made too late.

Not good enough. We will miss out on the playoffs. I’ve been confident all season we finish top 6 but the manner of this performance is a disaster.
I'm as pissed off as anyone else with the result but he's top 6 and got enough credit in the bank to not warrant an arseholing from Acun
 
I'm as pissed off as anyone else with the result but he's top 6 and got enough credit in the bank to not warrant an arseholing from Acun
I agree but he really needs to look at himself and wonder ‘do I need to set up 5-4-1 and expect less than 30% possession against a bottom three side to scrape results or should I be more proactive and positive?’. We need to capitalise on our league position, not stagnate and try to limp over the line by being too cautious going into games.

Sheffield Wednesday and Oxford United games need to be six points but also need to be emphatic, positive performances.
 
Beaten out of sight there by a team set up from the first whistle to fight for their lives, and it has to be said, City didn't seem to fancy it from the very first vicious tackle on Slater inside the first minute. West Brom bullied us from there on and we rolled over and let them.
The important first goal was another gift from City, another under hit kick from Pandur and not even an effort to save the shot as though he knew he'd cocked up. The sending off was ridiculous and harsh, also totally avoidable and from there we we were a mess.
At times West Brom looked as though they had 15 players to our ten and fully deserved the points. We were poor all game and got what we deserved.
Also the home fans loved it, as they would, probably their biggest and best win of the season. I felt sorry for our away following, City gave them nothing to cheer today.
Just one comment on the different commentors. The WBA pair said the sending off was a yellow card at best, Dave Burns said Hughes was deservedly sent off.
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Beaten out of sight there by a team set up from the first whistle to fight for their lives, and it has to be said, City didn't seem to fancy it from the very first vicious tackle on Slater inside the first minute. West Brom bullied us from there on and we rolled over and let them.
The important first goal was another gift from City, another under hit kick from Pandur and not even an effort to save the shot as though he knew he'd cocked up. The sending off was ridiculous and harsh, also totally avoidable and from there we we were a mess.
At times West Brom looked as though they had 15 players to our ten and fully deserved the points. We were poor all game and got what we deserved.
Also the home fans loved it, as they would, probably their biggest and best win of the season. I felt sorry for our away following, City gave them nothing to cheer today.
Just one comment on the different commentors. The WBA pair said the sending off was a yellow card at best, Dave Burns said Hughes was deservedly sent off.
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On the commentators bit, do the WBA lads see replays? Burnsy doesn't, I understand.
 
On the commentators bit, do the WBA lads see replays? Burnsy doesn't, I understand.
I'm not blaming DB for the defeat, far from it, I just find his commentating mind numbingly negative, and from the first kick. It's not something new either, I began to hate in on the radio when he was still at RH. I like the fella too, but compared to the commentators of other clubs who, most times are annoyingly over the top with their bias towards their team, DB seems to be always looking for the negative side of everything and that is equally if not more annoying. Just had a message that twitter is alive with the same views too?
 
If Saints and Wrexham win their games in hand next week, they’ll be breathing down our necks. Something has to change.

Aside from the crap tactics, the players looked ****ed. Something is seriously wrong with conditioning at this club. The amount of injuries and energy levels at times is not a coincidence. It can’t be.
 
I'm not blaming DB for the defeat, far from it, I just find his commentating mind numbingly negative, and from the first kick. It's not something new either, I began to hate in on the radio when he was still at RH. I like the fella too, but compared to the commentators of other clubs who, most times are annoyingly over the top with their bias towards their team, DB seems to be always looking for the negative side of everything and that is equally if not more annoying. Just had a message that twitter is alive with the same views too?
Aye I’ve commented on it plenty of times
Posters complain on here the oppo commentators are biased!!
Err they’re supposed to it’s their team ffs
While fatty has always relished doom n gloom for city
 
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I agree but he really needs to look at himself and wonder ‘do I need to set up 5-4-1 and expect less than 30% possession against a bottom three side to scrape results or should I be more proactive and positive?’. We need to capitalise on our league position, not stagnate and try to limp over the line by being too cautious going into games.

Sheffield Wednesday and Oxford United games need to be six points but also need to be emphatic, positive performances.

You're my witness - I said exactly the same after Ipswich as I'll say now - why do we keep making ****ing changes after we win?

Once again, we swapped to a formation we are unfamiliar with and once again we looked ****ing ridiculously bad. It's becoming a bit of a meme from where I'm standing because we go to Wrexham, deservedly win after a dominant performance and then for some bastard reason we once again swap to a really defensive formation with wing backs and look complete ****e. It's happened multiple times this season where we've put in a great shift and grabbed three points, then gone to a worse side and been absolute bobbins - Sheffield Wednesday on Boxing Day springs to mind after beating Wrexham, Millwall and WBA.

Amir has been great the last few games, he was dropped to the bench. Ajayi looked **** in the last game, but was kept in at the expense of McNair who looked much better. Koumas keeps getting in the side ahead of Joseph, but it's obvious even from the most basic of stats that when Joseph plays our results are miles better as he's a much better foil for McBurnie out wide. Koumas has ability, pace and energy but he doesn't apply it as consistently as Joseph does and his best role is as a striker playing through the middle, which he can't do while we have McBurnie.

We play 3 centre halves and we look crap; we don't have a settled enough midfield for it to work as we can't decide between Slater, Amir, Crooks and Collyer, Crooks can't manage 90 minutes without getting knackered so we lose impetus going forward and Millar as a wing back just doesn't work.

Changes like this massively unsettle this side, we look unprepared and confused half the time and dare I say it, the players never look like they are enjoying themselves when we set up that way.

Please Serg, just stick to the formation we used to get all the way up here in the table, it's the one that serves us best. Please don't piss about with the team unless it's injury enforced.
 
I'm not blaming DB for the defeat, far from it, I just find his commentating mind numbingly negative, and from the first kick. It's not something new either, I began to hate in on the radio when he was still at RH. I like the fella too, but compared to the commentators of other clubs who, most times are annoyingly over the top with their bias towards their team, DB seems to be always looking for the negative side of everything and that is equally if not more annoying. Just had a message that twitter is alive with the same views too?
No, I was just wondering if the WBA commentators had the benefit of replays before deciding on the validity of the red card. I don't believe Burnsy did.