CharltonPat, I do agree with you about that song. I've posted about it before on a number of threads as well as having spoken out about my fear of the clubs reputation being lost due to mindless idiots singing that song. Yet my reference to them as 'mindless idiots' is more to do with how, as Typical would put it, 'political correctness has gone [so] mad' that you cannot sing a song which is designed more as a means of humour rather than any intention to cause actual offense. Though it is a cliched ethnic slur, I do believe it wouldn't actually cause as much offense as the (sorry again Typical...) 'PC brigade' would make out, or at least, the offense it would cause would be a product of how tabooed such a slur is. Would IA or myself be offended to hear songs about how Gary Doherty loves getting drunk? Would PondersEndAddick/Typical be offended to hear songs about how the English love to have a fight/are brilliant at queuing up/are always miserable? (presumably by Cardiff/Swansea fans or some Champions League opponents in a few years time () ) I hate to make assumptions, but I'd assume that in most cases the answer would be no. Incidentally however, why is there so much focus on the aforementioned part of the chant (an ex-black PL player), rather than the second verse, about another ex-player (and his sexual inclinations/tendencies to gag)? Surely they are both equally as bad?
I've never heard the second verse. I hope Gary Doherty won't be playing in the Champions League games.
Ah fair enough Nahh Doherty won't be playing in the Champions League, it'll be the Europa League he'll feature in when he signs for Man Utd in January
I fear that when Vidic comes back from injury the Doc may find himself restricted to a place on the bench
Was at the Walsall game, heard the Ambrose chant and the ones about Walsall as a place bid not hear any racist chants though. I was sat behind the 2 blokes ejected by the Walsall stewards, they were giving their keeper dogs abuse with some extremely choice language, i was pretty glad they got their orders, my missus was less than impressed with them, it will be a long time before she allows me to "treat" her to another away game....!
There's one way to test this. Someone needs to start a thread proposing that standing at football grounds will be allowed but only after a ballot of members of the Fire Brigades Union has ratified it. That'll soon "out" him.
The Adams family chant...its much ado about nothing,silly yes juvinile but does it really upset people that much.It dont worry me at all to be honest and think its been blown out of all proportion by the club.
Football is a tribal affair. What goes on in the stadium should stay in the stadium. Folk that get upset about chanting should take up another sport.
There's nothing acceptable about racist, nationalist/xenophobic or gender type abuse and obscenities aimed at players which is what the thread is about from experiences at away grounds. I wouldn't call those remarks tribal either. The supporters of this behaviour always resort to the pc tag cop-out, I would call it bullying and anti social behaviour which does not belong in sport.
If it's personal obscenities then it's not a given and is unacceptable, the thread is about the personal stuff not the general chants. Also if you single out your own players for personal abuse it hardly encourages to peform better, presumably you condone some of the stuff on twitter and at the ground aimed at Charlton's leading goal scorer BWP then.
How was your trip Ponders and were the chants acceptable yesterday,seemed like our fans were in good voice from what I could hear on the radio
Yeah, great trip, Mike. I could only hear half of the chants due to my chronic ear infection - but it was all good harmless fun. Despite the elements, Yeovil has always been a favourite away venue of mine. We stopped over in Dorchester last night and visited a book fayre this morning. All the best to you and the Tyson Clan for the New Year.
