This is French Tickler style debating. I make a point about what actually happens, you quote it and say utter bollocks. Though obviously if it was TFT it would be utter tosh. You still haven't explained what about him constantly missing gives you the idea that he's a good finisher, and you've made several comments with as much substance as this one since then, I'll carry on assuming it's just because he's Fryatt then.
From how many shots? Are we really so intelligent on this board that it's just simply whoever scores the most is the best? If we weren't creating chances and he'd only scored 2 would everyone say it was his fault for not scoring more? Yet when we make the chances for him and he fails we all praise him :s
You are obviously entitled to your opinion, but just because others have a different opinion to you, you accuse them of not watching games, liking players because of their name, or some other such nonsense. You are aware that I go to pretty much every game, I'm more than capable of making my own mind up on the ability(or lack of), of any of our players and I can debate them without telling you that you don't have a mind of your own. Now give it a ****ing rest.
He does miss chances. I said so, you just ignored that. He isn't perfect. HOWEVER, every striker misses chances. The best ones miss fewer than the worst ones. Matty Fryatt takes as many as he misses. In a couple of games against Blackpool and West Ham he's missed 2 or 3 chances. Against Millwall he missed one. Away at Derby he took his only chance. Away at Forest last season, he took his only chance. Who else do you think we can get who'll take more chances? If you think Fryatt is crap, you'll be disappointed with anyone. Darren Bent cost £25m and he missed two sitters on Saturday. Matty Fryatt cost £1.2m, works his arse off, defends from the front, links play nicely and scores a reasonable amount of goals. Absolute bargain.
Fair enough I never mean to get personal on these boards, it seems that certain players' reputations come from somewhere other than the pitch at times, but whatever. I'm in the minority on this one.
Shots? Who knows. And who cares? It's a pointless stat. You could have 10 shots a game from distance and not come close to scoring. You are a moron. You criticise him with this comment: "If we sign someone who actually knows there the goal is" and then get all uppity when people point out his goal record in his defence. HE KNOWS WHERE THE GOAL IS BECAUSE HE'S SCORED MORE GOALS THAN MOST OTHER PLAYERS IN THE COUNTRY THIS YEAR. Get it now?
what on earth is all this rubbish about James Chesters form then ? anyone would think he has been dire ? in case anyone has not been paying attention Chester picked up his 4th booking @ Derby (1st game after NP) and so has had to be careful with what he does in games. Jack Hobbs has taken up the slack. Once Chester has got his one game suspension over and done with then i expect Chester to be back to his normal self. i would suggest that if Chester gets thru the Boro and Burnley games without his 5th booking then expect him to take a booking against Derby so that he is free to play in the Peterboro game. I would also expect Rosie to do the same as he is also on 4 bookings.
OK I was going to stop but this is a pretty reasonable post and deserves a reasonable reply. I'll stop after this I promise. It's not him missing chances that annoys me, it's missing easy chances that seem to be very similar every time. It's the one on one with pressure from the 'keeper, he always misses that chance, you'd think he'd work on it or something. As I've said before, Koren takes more chances even though it isn't his job, for his goal on Saturday he hit it pretty weak but it went in through precision which is something I'm yet to see from Fryatt. I don't know what better options there are, I'm hopng that whoever we get in (Vokes) is a bit more composed in those positions. I don't think Fryatt is crap though, crap in front of goal yes, but his running and linkup play are good. Oh and I don't rate Darren Bent much for a similar reason, he has the composure but seems to miss as many easy chances as hen puts away. Most people disagree with me so I'll leave it there, but I'm sure in a few days there'll be a McLean or Adebola bitching thread and I'll end up defending them, and being in the minority on that too. EDIT: Now you go back to being all personal, jesus wept. In a debate about his finishing I'm not allowed to consider how many shots he misses, only the ones he scores? Well of course that will look good! Simply looking at goals and ranking strikers based on them isn't a pointless stats but going into a bit of detail and looking into how they happened is? I'd argue the complete opposite. I said I'd stop so I will. End of input from me on this topic now, some players are untouchable, some will always be scapegoats.
Rosenior hasn't put a foot wrong. Chester's made mistakes bringing the ball out of defence. It's nothing to do with 4 bookings at all. nor should it be, they are top pro's.
So, if Fryatt scored every chance he ever got this season, how many goals would he have scored this season? Can somebody tell me that?
agreed. well played keith andrews and just shows how poor Ipswich have been this season. If the tractor boys do in fact lose K.A. in Jan they are in big trouble. imo.
Rosie has more experience than Chester and i would suggest it has everything to do with Chester being on 4 bookings. Whilst nobody on here knows whats been said in the dressing room I would be amazed if it was not on his mind hence why his form has dipped just slightly. I still think that both Chester and Rosie will take bookings in the Derby game (if they get that far) so that they miss the Cup match. But to say that Chester is not thinking about a possible suspension affecting his game would i suggest be a bit naive.
I would agree if Chez was missing tackles or losing strikers in the box but he's not. Almost all of his mistakes have come from him trying too hard to bring the ball out of defence and being caught. Apart from the early one on Saturday, he didn't put a foot wrong. There's nothing wrong with his mental state.
Andy Cole was famously not selected by Glenn Hoddle for England because he only took one chance in five, at the time he was scoring about 25 a season for Man United so on Hoddles logic for not picking him he should have been hitting over a hundred goals a season. For me its more what a striker brings to the team not just goals, and I remember Andy Payton banging in 25 in a season and I'm sure we went down or were very close to it
