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What has HBA done...?

Discussion in 'Newcastle United' started by NufcBano, Dec 17, 2011.

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  1. Ba's Strawberry Syrup

    Ba's Strawberry Syrup Active Member

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    Pardew basically shoots them down yet they still go for the bs sensationalist headlines <doh> Hardly out in the cold.
     
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  2. I'm With Colo

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    Although, with Pardew saying after a few games now that it wasn't the right situation for HBA, I'm starting to wonder if he's figured out when the best situations are? And I can't help but wonder what message it sends to him to say that there are so many situations in which he's not suited to play? If a player is as technically gifted as him, I think over time they need to figure out what he needs teaching so that he can play and contribute every week.
     
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  3. Smudger

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    Well he is something of a luxury player, in that he may actually play better against the top sides. Who knows though, could be anything.
     
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  4. Arfa's Left Foot

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    Basically, if we're **** at the back it will be a lot more hoof ball and he won't be at all effective and will get isolated. With a solid base we'll have a lot more of the ball played to feet and he'll get in the game more.
     
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  5. The mighty DeBOOSHy

    The mighty DeBOOSHy Active Member

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    Yeah I think Pardew explained his decision well. Whilst I would still have bought HBA on personally, I'm not a professional manager and I can see Pardew's point, so I'll defend Pardew on this one. Would be nice to see if he plays on wed.
     
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  6. Freddd

    Freddd Well-Known Member

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    Basically, we need to be solid defensively becasue HBA doesn#t bring much to the table in that regard. Also, if it's a game where the other side are parking the bus so that there isn't much space, a big lad who can use some muscle in the bax may be a better option. The best situations for HBA is when our defenceis in shape and the other side is playing football. Plus HBA needs to sharpen a notch to be an automatic starter.

    Sensible and coherent enough. I would have brought him on against Norwich but Pards probably (very, very probably) knows better
     
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  7. NufcBano

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    Ive never heard so many people say 'I wouldnt have done it, but Pardew probably knows better'.

    Seeing as the option he took at Norwich and Swansea make the square root of f*ck all of difference to the game and had no impact whatsoever...........maybe you should grow a pair and say; He was wrong.

    Considering all of you 'wouldnt have done it personally' maybe we're all right and heaven for bid the manager made a mistake.
     
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  8. Hatem Is A Geordie

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    How do you know that bringing HBA would have made a difference, it could have made it worse for all we know.
     
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  9. NufcBano

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    Im not going to into this again. For f*cks sake.
     
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  10. The mighty DeBOOSHy

    The mighty DeBOOSHy Active Member

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    Why not its true!? What if he'd come on and been **** because he's been rusty, the crowd turned against him, and we were more vulnerable at the back. Pardew pretty much implied that's what he was worried about. You have no reason to suggest that your tactics would have worked better.

    Basically Pardew is saying we're down to the bare bones defensively so we can't afford to carry a player who isn't quite on form. Fair comment. I don't see why you think he is undoubtably wrong.
     
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  11. Amnesiac

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    Go back to Football Manager, at least you know what you're doing on there <ok>
     
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  12. Freddd

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    Well, either we all need to grow a pair of balls or you need to develop a recognition of your lack of infallibility.

    We're not say "he's wrong" because we aren't in a position to say that. All we can say is that our opinion/choice would have been different. This is because we realise that it is impossible to objectively demonstrate that one choice would have been better than the other. This might be something you want to work on.
     
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  13. NufcBano

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    Seeing as Sammy came on and was ****. Has the crowd turned on him?

    If HBA had came on and didnt make a difference then not one person would have complained, criticised or would be even remotely bothered about the substitutions Pards made.............because 99% of people would have brought HBA on as well.

    Are you total f*cking morons? Or just pussys who agree with everything the manager does? He's made strange substitutions all season long that have made no impact whatsoever apart from the infamous Shola vs Spurs game.

    You have to justify making out of the ordinary subs with some kind of result. He hasn't. So they were mistakes. Its not rocket science.
     
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  14. Smudger

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    Bano's got that thing tash has where he prefers to think that every single other person is wrong and he must be right. Ben Arfa's not fully fit and not in especially good form, we also had a major weakness in defence and he gives the ball away a lot, it wasn't exactly ideal for him.
     
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  15. NufcBano

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    You do realise most NUFC fans agree HBA should have came on............including yourself!!

    So yea, Im right and everyone else is wrong......
     
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  16. Smudger

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    Yes I do realise that, but there was plenty of good reasons not to bring him on and merit to bringing different players on.
     
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  17. Cal.

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  18. NufcBano

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    You lot keep saying these things to me as if I dont understand them. Of course we dont know exactly what would have happened if HBA came on. But what is pretty safe to assume is that it would have been even slightly more of an impact then the choice he made instead. Also considering the fact Swansea weren't exactly threatening our full backs, sticking HBA on the wing wasnt exactly a kamikaze risk.

    Basically the reason I keep going on and on about it is because this will continue to happen for the rest of the season based on what we have seen. He continues to baffle and confuse most of us, not just myself. If these one in a million choices are costing us points then I am entitled to be slightly pissed off by them.

    Im done. So bored.
     
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  19. The mighty DeBOOSHy

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    Wow, you really need everyone to agree with you don't you.

    Saying that there were perfectly reasonable explanations for not bringing him on that Pardew has actually come out and explained himself is not bring a "****ing moron"...

    I love the "safe to say HBA would have had more of an impact" line.... How could anyone possibly know this ha ha
     
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  20. Paco Montoya

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    Its like groundhog day in here <whistle>
     
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