I think SR will forgive Tonda for winning that game because we managed a higher possession percentage than they did and we all know that is more important. He needs to be careful in future though because it was close!
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Came in and instantly turned our fortunes around after an abysmal effort by Still that nearly ruined our entire season. Had a rough patch, but has recovered from it very well, and seems to be learning quickly. Players like him. Team spirit and passion is a massive improvement. A lot of the time, at this level, that's more important than tactics, formations and skillful players.
We'll likely have another bad patch before the season finishes, and it's still a tall ask to finish in the top 6. But as long as we continue to make steady improvements, then I'm all up for sticking with Tonda. Yes, there's probably better out there, but let's face it, SR aren't going to know who.
I’m sticking to my line. I think the guy got a management job too soon in his career. I like listening to him. He makes a lot of sense and he’ll be very good in time. I didn’t want SFC to be the place for his education. After the last few clowns we needed a proven manager.
BUT he’s learned quickly. He makes mistakes, but he seems to have given stability which after the Premiership embarrassment and Will Still we needed. I still believe he needs support, but what do any of us know about backroom discussions?
Tonda out? Let’s not be silly. And for the record that’s been my view even during the duff spell.
BUT he’s learned quickly. He makes mistakes, but he seems to have given stability which after the Premiership embarrassment and Will Still we needed. I still believe he needs support, but what do any of us know about backroom discussions?
Tonda out? Let’s not be silly. And for the record that’s been my view even during the duff spell.
I think it was intended he get the job at some point but WS being so bad push them into triggering that too early but a person who can go on to be a good manager will succeed given the chance to make the inevitable mistakes. If he gets us promoted after the shambles at the start of the season I see no reason not to stick with him even if that does end up with another drop from the prem
If we do go on to get promoted from here then it will mainly be down to the formation change for me. It was blatantly obvious to everyone it seemed that the squad was best suited to a 4231 type system and it took us 28 games or whatever for us to play it.
If we gain enough points and win the playoffs with that system it just justifies what most people were saying back in August.
If we finish top 10 then I think Tonda carries on into next season, but I still am of the belief that with the squad we have, playing the system we have been recently, any professional manager would get results.
If we do go up then it is a really big call, exactly the same as when we went up under Martin (albeit to a lesser extent). The way we currently play will not work in the PL, is Tonda the guy to change that and make us effective in the PL, of course we would need to sign basically an entire new first XI as well
If we gain enough points and win the playoffs with that system it just justifies what most people were saying back in August.
If we finish top 10 then I think Tonda carries on into next season, but I still am of the belief that with the squad we have, playing the system we have been recently, any professional manager would get results.
If we do go up then it is a really big call, exactly the same as when we went up under Martin (albeit to a lesser extent). The way we currently play will not work in the PL, is Tonda the guy to change that and make us effective in the PL, of course we would need to sign basically an entire new first XI as well
Meh, I really hope we dont get promoted, this season has been far more interesting than last which was utterly ****e. I’m hoping for a solid end to the season a playoff game or two and then some savvy additions over the summer. Maybe then.. maybe then.. maybe.
I get the logic but the issue as ever is money. If we don’t go up this year then there is the question mark over how competitive we are going to be financially next season compared to the other parachute clubs, which makes it a lot harder.
Going up and having a 12 point season again is probably better long term than not going up and having a much higher likelihood of turning into a Bristol City/Stoke type team who finish mid table in the Champ every season
Also, in theory SR will have learnt their lesson from last time, seen what Sunderland have done, and spend more money on better and more experienced players.
Sunderland got fortunate in that they got a big fee for Bellingham which allowed them to spend. Forest just cheated and got a points deduction. But ultimately both spent and recruited well
Whether we will spend because we get a big sale (no idea who that could be) or because we are happy to break the rules, we still need to recruit well.
Being like Leeds recruitment seems much more achievable, but Farke seems to have moved to a 5 at the back which is why their fortunes have changed.
I think that the way we play now has more chance of success in the PL with better players, it's hardly suicidal Russball.
Nor would I be confident that they'd get the right people in.
lol. What’s the definition of insanity again?
Everyone spends on better and more experienced players. Forest survived by starting a new team but now they’re a basket case. Leeds had a couple of years in the champ and are doing well without overspending. I’d rather follow their model. Another year in the champ wouldn’t necessarily be the end of the world.our manager certainly won’t be equipped with the experience needed next season.
I think it’s a dice roll in the premier. It’s incredibly tight and survival means first and foremost finding three teams that are poor. Without that I don’t think the promoted outfits have much of a chance.
Agreed. I also think our owners realise that it’s far better to get promoted with a team of players you own, instead of one made up of loan players and others running down their contracts.
After earning promotion in 23/24, we effectively lost Che Adams, Stu Armstrong, Downes, THB, Brooks, Rothwell and Fraser.
I’d rather it take two or three seasons and we go up with our own players, than have to spend the majority of our budget on signing our loaned players back from their parent clubs.
He came to Brighton from St Pauli in June 2024 having won promotion to the Bundesliga in May that year after two seasons in charge. Probably regarded as more experienced than Eckert. Similar to Tonda he had an initial run of good results since which there's been a decline culminating in defeat to arch rivals Crystal Palace. Chants of “you don’t know what you’re doing” and “you’re getting sacked in the morning” rang out. This despite a more than £200m spend on players in the summer Hürzeler arrived. His Future is in doubt and, although according to reports there's no plans to sack him, it's noted that popular with fans Roberto De Zerbi has just left Marseille.
Just saw the stat on Sky.
Basically if the season had started when Tonda took over, we'd be top of the table - we have accumulated more points than anyone else since he took over.
Basically if the season had started when Tonda took over, we'd be top of the table - we have accumulated more points than anyone else since he took over.
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