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Not a faurlin fan!

Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by rangers4me, Dec 18, 2011.

  1. Ciarrai_Abu

    Ciarrai_Abu Well-Known Member

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    There are lies, damned lies and then there are statistics.
     
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  2. Ciarrai_Abu

    Ciarrai_Abu Well-Known Member

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    There's the truth of the matter.
     
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  3. Swords Hoopster

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    Up the KINGDOM!! :smiley-finger007:
     
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  4. RuislipRanger

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    So "statistically" where does that put us in the table ? That also does not state how succesful the tackle was,it means how many takcles are made.And why is it that against WBA and United when he gave the ball away he then jogged behind the player to who hes lost it to and watched as the ball ended up in the net.Id rather have Derry at least when he puts a tackle in he means it ,not some half hearted attempt at trying to be tough.
     
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  5. Q.P.R

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    My thoughts exactly. Well said! Statistics dont win you games.
     
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  6. Star of David Bardsley

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    It shows both how many tackles were made and the percentage that were successful. We are wherever we are in the table (I've honestly not had a look) but given we have one of the top two tacklers in the league in the team and one of the most accurate passers (but don't let those damned statistic fool you, he's crap in reality), you'd imagine we'd be a bit lower in the table without him. We all love Derry but the guy has been overrun by any decent midfield and can only do an effective job as part of a midfield three. I'm not saying Faurlin is brilliant and I'm not saying any speculation linking him with a bigger club is justified but he has been consistently our best midfielder this season and for any faults he has is a far better player than any of the potential replacements (Derry, Buzsaky). Added to that he's left-footed which adds some balance to the team though I don't think we make use of this enough. On the few occasions he's taken a set piece in his time here he's looked dangerous.

    Obviously statistics don't win you games but they show you who is doing certain things well and Faurlin ticks the box comfortably for tackling and passing.
     
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  7. rangercol

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    I'm a big Faurlin fan, but I do recognise that his lack of pace is a big disadvantage at the top level. He's being badly let down and exposed though by a under-performing Barton and our change to 4-4-2.
     
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  8. KooPeeArr

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    That 76% means something. It'll either be successful tackles or the % of the entire team's tackles he makes (unrealistic).

    He is slow but he was chasing Barton's bad pass for Carrick's goal not his own.

    He is tidy if he gets the ball in a tight spot and only tries riskier passes if he's got time to do so but otherwise plays it simple.

    If we moved the ball forward too quickly then everyone would say "keep it simple" and "we need to hold onto the ball."

    Decide what you all would prefer.
     
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  9. ashbyhoops

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    To be honest im more concerned about our superstar captain who thinks he should be playing for England.........sorry apart from squaring up to Carl Henry he hasn't inspired me one bit.
     
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  10. KooPeeArr

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    Fair point.
     
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  11. RuislipRanger

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    Watford,you must be having a laugh about the set pieces,the only thing dangerous about his set pieces is to people in the upper loft.
     
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  12. qprdan35

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    yes hes slow and although im not a fan really, id muchrather we had 2 top players in the middle of the park, 1 leader/battler and 1 creative player. IF ANY OF YOU BELIEVE HARRY WOULD BUY HIM THEN YOU ARE OFF YOUR HEADS, PARKER, MODRIC VDV?? not tomention huddlestone, jenas and probably a coupleof others. which one of them is faurlin better than??i would have any of them above ali anyday of the week!!!!!!!
     
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  13. Star of David Bardsley

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    Had one going in the top corner at home to Hull last season before the keeper made one of the best saves I've ever seen.
     
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  14. GoldhawkRoad

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    His strength is largely his reading of the game, spraying the ball around with precision and getting wide players behind the defence. His weaknesses are his lack of pace (we've lost two goals in successive home games which started with an opposing player careering down the centre of the pitch and Faurlin chasing hopelessly - the problem worse since Derry hasn't been around to cover for him) and his lack of a venomous strike, and thus goals - compare Tarbs tally, and Ali's last season.
     
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  15. RuislipRanger

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    Last season,not a bad return for one so talented.
     
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  16. SUPERHOOPAL62

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    I think you will find that part of the reason Ali was struggling in the latter part of the game against Liverpool was he hurt his back quite early in the game.
    He then took another heavy fall on Sunday against Man U and at the end of the game as he was leaving the pitch he was pulling one of those supporting plaster things ,which a lot of players seem to wear these days, from his back.
    Yes he has had some indifferent games but I would still rather see him in the midfield than some of the names being suggested.
     
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  17. QPR Oslo

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    Think in fact pace can be improved at least for teenagers. I know of football teams using top sprinters to train football players in exactly that with very impressive results for teenagers. Possibly not so easy when you are old men - into your twenties!, but I believe so.

    Farlin is a very good player, can't see there can be doubt about that. His tackling and passing are excellent. He gives us a lot in this area. That top Clubs are getting interested is verification. But he does need to improve his shooting and speed. We need players that are compatible with each other - we got speed with SWP, passing with Faurlin, tackling with a few of them, but I don't see the driving box to box midfield player in our squad, able to drive forward from midfield and shooting hard from distance, and with the stamina to get back again. January maybe?
     
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  18. LondonCalling

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    Faurlin is a very neat and tidy footballer, moves the ball around very well. Im sick of all these statistics however, for example, is there a stat that shows how many opposition midfielders have breezed past him this season?
     
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  19. RuislipRanger

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    Well said,London.
     
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  20. QPRNUTS

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    I agree, this was a point i made earlier. If we play 442, he does not sit naturally in either of the central midfield positions. IMO he is not quick or tough enough for the defensive role and so far he has not shown that he can create much either to play in the more attacking role. I agree that he could easily fit on the left side of a midfield three, but he is a bit caught between two stools in a 442
    I agree with the point that Barton has also been crap and has really left Faurlin isolated at times in the middle. Nobody can deny the point that our midfield was completely overrun on sun by a second string Utd midfield. Nobody can deny the point that our midfied is not creating enough because neither Faurlin nor Barton get forward enough and nobody can deny that our midfielders are not scoring enough.
    It took me a while to realise that a 4-4-2 does not suit Barton and Faurlin. I'm starting to realise that a 4-2-3-1 might again be our best bet, with 2 of Barton, Derry, and Faurlin siting deep. Perhaps Adel could play further ahead in the centre of the forward 3. Therefore if he lost the ball he already has two lads covering behind. Just my thoughts.
     
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