Off Topic Hull City Centre Public Realm Strategy

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Just about every tradesman I've used in recent years has said they can't get apprentices for love nor money, kids don't seem to want to be in trade.
When we moved onto a new development our house was one of the first built, only 5 years ago, so we had a construction site on our doorstep for a few years, saw plenty of young lads in all trades.
This constant narrative against the young generation just seems ridiculous, they don't all toss it off in black hoodies pulling wheelies in the middle of the road you know.
 
Just about every tradesman I've used in recent years has said they can't get apprentices for love nor money, kids don't seem to want to be in trade.
Depends on the trade, I guess. Here, plenty want to be electricians, machine drivers and plumbers, as the money is decent and easy to set up a small company. Not so many want to be asfalters, work in factories or do concrete work. (Brickies are rare, as the weather means not so many brick buildings).
 
When we moved onto a new development our house was one of the first built, only 5 years ago, so we had a construction site on our doorstep for a few years, saw plenty of young lads in all trades.
This constant narrative against the young generation just seems ridiculous, they don't all toss it off in black hoodies pulling wheelies in the middle of the road you know.
Isn't there a skills crisis in the U.K construction industry?
 
When we moved onto a new development our house was one of the first built, only 5 years ago, so we had a construction site on our doorstep for a few years, saw plenty of young lads in all trades.
This constant narrative against the young generation just seems ridiculous, they don't all toss it off in black hoodies pulling wheelies in the middle of the road you know.
Cant have been the development we are on at kingswood....the only young bastards we see are the afore mentioned ones......causing havoc when we leave....also lots of young black lads forming gangs too....just saying
 
Yes, an estimated shortage of 140,000 construction workers at the moment.
Which in some ways highlights the choices on leaving education nowadays?

Does a 16 year old lad leaving school who is computer literate want to (1) Work on a freezing cold building site in the middle of winter,up to his knees in mud OR (2) put his computer skills to use and work from home with a bigger salary and warmer feet.?

Sadly,I think this highlights the reason for the drop in skilled building trades and it has nothing to do with having a pop at the younger generation.The World we live in has evolved very quickly and there's a huge shift in what People want to do to earn a wage nowadays.
 
Isn't there a skills crisis in the U.K construction industry?
Nationally yes, population explosion in the SE perhaps? I'm talking about house building locally which has increased in the last decade, Beverley, Kingswood, Willerby, Anlaby, Brough, all you see on local social media groups is old gits complaining about 'more bloody houses being built', which are being built and bought mostly by people younger than the ones complaining!
 
Which in some ways highlights the choices on leaving education nowadays?

Does a 16 year old lad leaving school who is computer literate want to (1) Work on a freezing cold building site in the middle of winter,up to his knees in mud OR (2) put his computer skills to use and work from home with a bigger salary and warmer feet.?

Sadly,I think this highlights the reason for the drop in skilled building trades and it has nothing to do with having a pop at the younger generation.The World we live in has evolved very quickly and there's a huge shift in what People want to do to earn a wage nowadays.
I've worked what was originally termed semi-skilled/skilled manual labour all my life since the early 1990s. The pay has always been 'ok', but the work - mostly outside in ****ty weather conditions, dirt and grease, and lugging around heavy tools and equipment, always something that can go wrong and be dangerous. When I hit 40s, I moved sideways via modernisation to monitoring systems, but still had to do the same work when fixes became necessary.

I haven't always minded the work, but the mid-level accountant, who worked in the office that I had to hand in reports to, earned more than me doing far easier work, regular hours, coffee at a desk, energy to do physical hobbies in the evening and getting to check out the receptionist's tits or arse every time he goes for a piss.

I always pushed for my kids to not follow my lead, and to take some form of education that gives them no need to do the same kind of work - because it's not easy, not that financially rewarding and basically just a graft. Kids today aren't rushing to do these types of jobs because the pay is **** for the work required, especially when inflation is factored in. Probably too late for me to become an influencer.
 
That's certainly one of the issues, as is many retiring without the jobs being taken up by younger lads.
And lasses dont forget...we have a female bricky works with us...served her apprenticeship with us and she is a right good grafter really good work ethic and attitude too...
 
Which in some ways highlights the choices on leaving education nowadays?

Does a 16 year old lad leaving school who is computer literate want to (1) Work on a freezing cold building site in the middle of winter,up to his knees in mud OR (2) put his computer skills to use and work from home with a bigger salary and warmer feet.?

Sadly,I think this highlights the reason for the drop in skilled building trades and it has nothing to do with having a pop at the younger generation.The World we live in has evolved very quickly and there's a huge shift in what People want to do to earn a wage nowadays.
Bigger salary?.....ive been a bricky for 48 years....never been out of graft ...always made a very good living...wear the correct boots and my feet have never been cold!
 
I've worked what was originally termed semi-skilled/skilled manual labour all my life since the early 1990s. The pay has always been 'ok', but the work - mostly outside in ****ty weather conditions, dirt and grease, and lugging around heavy tools and equipment, always something that can go wrong and be dangerous. When I hit 40s, I moved sideways via modernisation to monitoring systems, but still had to do the same work when fixes became necessary.

I haven't always minded the work, but the mid-level accountant, who worked in the office that I had to hand in reports to, earned more than me doing far easier work, regular hours, coffee at a desk, energy to do physical hobbies in the evening and getting to check out the receptionist's tits or arse every time he goes for a piss.

I always pushed for my kids to not follow my lead, and to take some form of education that gives them no need to do the same kind of work - because it's not easy, not that financially rewarding and basically just a graft. Kids today aren't rushing to do these types of jobs because the pay is **** for the work required, especially when inflation is factored in. Probably too late for me to become an influencer.
My youngest lad left school in 2008 with reasonable qualifications and immediately found work in Cumbernauld inland revenue(chasing up taxes etc).Lasted probably 7 or 8 years doing that kind of work but couldn't hack the cliques,cronyism and nepotism within the civil service.

He now works as a self employed contractor for SGN(Scottish Gas Network) laying mains gas pipework along roads and to front doors.Good money but long term he'll be burnt out by the time he's 50.His bones especially his spine are showing wear and tear that at his age they shouldn't be.He has moved his way up into a reasonable position but he's still digging deep holes.

Natural progression through various qualifications attained will soon see him overseeing works ,the quicker the better!!!
 
And lasses dont forget...we have a female bricky works with us...served her apprenticeship with us and she is a right good grafter really good work ethic and attitude too...
The insurance company sent a young female plumber into my youngest lasses home recently after an extensive water escape from her bathroom.Best plumbing work I've seen done in many a year!!!
 
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Maybe the hundreds of thousands of unemployed graduates can retrain as brickies ?

My mate who was an apprentice trained and years of experience welder found himself with less and less ship work, often only temp jobs fixing the cock ups made by the cheaper options.

DSS told him he had to do retraining so asked for computer or electronics type thing, no places for that you have to do a Bricky course. Off he goes for a few months of training and comes away with some sort of NVQ qualification, said in the same building they were teaching welding to the same level.
 
Yes they have,their Country has changed for the better.
Very much so.
Funny (but not funny) how the tables have turned, and in such a relatively short space of time. Poles coming here in there droves not that long ago, now many returning PLUS many UK citizens also going and looking to go move there. They are showing us how it can be done (on several fronts), even with the restrictions of being in the EU and ECHR. It proves that where there's a real will there's a way.
Poland eh. Who would have thought. As I keep saying, this country is ****ed, and needs a massive reset (with zero sign of it coming short to medium term as our problems just get worse).
FACT finding:
As of late 2025/early 2026, Poland has seen a sharp rise in British nationals moving there, becoming one of the top destinations for UK expats in Europe.
Key factors driving this trend include a lower cost of living, better quality of life, and a booming tech sector.
The shift is driven by lower cost of living, efficient public transport, and perceived higher quality of life, often described as a "better financial breathing room".
Poland’s economy is growing, with opportunities in the tech sector, making it an attractive destination for work.
Access to both public and private healthcare is available, with private options noted for being affordable compared to the UK