The date of that was 14th November. The speech she gave at Downing street was on the 4th November. At that speech she made no reference to improved forecasts, but we now know she had them at that point. That is where people claim she has misled them. Had she said at that point productivity is down but tax take is up so we are better off overall, nobody would have a stick to beat her with. As it stands, on the 4th November she left key information out and left it unsaid for 10 days. Some might argue we only got the article on the 14th because the FT had already been running stories about the change of heart on income tax rises. None of this changes my opinion on the budget. But calling that breakfast news conference was quite extraordinary, and now to understand only part of the picture was shared is problematic imo.
That's more or less it. Sleight of hand. You might get away with it in many other circumstances. But not when you're the chancellor. Whatever excuses are made, the most important people are the bond markets. And they are not happy having been played.
. I have to say, that statement makes me very sad indeed and pretty much says it all ... ... no wonder I choose to live in my own happy little bubble.
I’m not happy with the bond markets. Bankrupting our nation and others for profit. This stuff ruins lives.
What I am happy to concede is that budgets these days are leaked out and spun and they shouldn’t be. It was the same under the last lot. It should be kept for parliament. Nobody ws calling for Sunak or Hunt to go when they did it. They weren’t female and working class and they didn’t introduce a mansion tax. I see the bloke from the OBR has gone for being crap at his job and undermining her.
Isn’t it a shame that the only honest person out of the three loses his job, while the other two corrupt scroats carry on as though nothing has happened. Their day isn’t far away. “ crap at his job and undermining her” In other words, letting the British public know we have two bent MPs in charge of the country. Well done sir, proud of you.
I have been told by our right leaning friends on here that Rachel from Accounts has wrecked the economy (it was in a fantastic state in July 2024 was it not?) yet she is being **** upon because the economy is doing better than people expected not that she will get any credit for that. I’m also told she shouldn’t tax wealthy people as it will drive them from the country and stop them creating jobs. So she spreads the tax burden around but those with broader shoulders, like millionaire farmers and very large home owners, pay a little more. Seems fair enough. Damned whatever she did. Take away the right wing driven media ****e and it’s a good budget with a focus of taking kids out of poverty.
You think releasing the information before the budget is someone doing their job right? You think wider leaks are professional for a public body? I think it’s pretty universally accepted that the OBR isn’t the best model of practice either. So tell me why you like them so much?
However they aren't helping hard working class people, they are not helping people who are working 3 jobs to support their families. They are helping those too lazy to get off their arses and work. It should never ever be beneficial to stay at home doing nothing , sponging off the state than it is to work. Support people who are prepared to work, support people that CAN'T work.
I agree completely we need to get people back to work who can, particularly the long term unemployed for the benefit of themselves as much as us as tax payers. I had some involvement in the last Labour government’s New Deal programme that brought a wide range of partners together to do that and generally worked. This labour government has a similar Get Britain Working programme (I think it’s called you can google) which is coming into place. Of course with the right wing media you won’t hear any good stuff but hopefully that will start to make some inroads into what is a big problem for this country. As Becs highlighted further up the thread a lot of the measures in the budget will help working low income families but again you won’t see our media highlighting these needed measures.
I can never get my head around people saying the fault lies with the right wing media and the people listen to them, I wonder how Labour got in with a record majority. Maybe the people who are saying this aren’t to blessed up top.
Haven’t you forgotten Rooch marra, we all easily led, not mature enough to think for ourselves and need reminding of the almighty and superior political leaders and posters of our shortcomings
You and Roochy are way long gone mate. you will have to enlighten me why the right spend a fortune on controlling the media if it doesn’t work.
Even Jesus Christ himself could not save the last Tory government given their incompetence and corruption.
Aye Tories basically made themselves unelectable. They as much as anyone are responsible for this Labour government.
