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Match Day Thread Tottenham Hotspur v Fulham

Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by PleaseNotPoll, Nov 27, 2025 at 6:41 PM.

  1. Tilly'sowner

    Tilly'sowner Well-Known Member

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    I don’t think anyone can claim they aren’t real fans.

    The difference with Arteta’s earlier struggles was that as a former star player for Arsenal, he had a strong bond with the club and had a good level of goodwill which gave him the time to establish himself.

    Frank doesn’t have that and now we have Lewis’s kids running the club, there is some uncertainty on how they will react. January’s transfer window might give us a clue on their stance.
     
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  2. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    Less the booing, more the ironic cheering when Vicario completed a pass for the 10-15 minutes afterwards

    Calling out general knobheadedness of the fanbase is needed sometimes
     
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  3. Jayramfootball

    Jayramfootball Well-Known Member

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    The bond with the club should not be a factor, IMO.
    A club like Spurs should be focused on WHY they have had limited success - shocking really for such a big club.
    No one has a bond with the club until they do.
    Everyone has to start somewhere.
    You've had 15 managers in the last 20 years! Ridiculous.
    Tells me the problem is the fans - and I am aware that at Arsenal we also have some of the same types that **** on everything we do unless it's winning a trophy. Just seems more the mainstream at Spurs.
     
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  4. The Changing Man

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    Because he is supposed to be a better coach?

    How much worse is the team? We have lost Sonny a player that you was quite critical of last year for being passed his best? Still a very good player who has not been replaced. Maddison, Solanke and Kulu are injured. Kulu is a big miss, many here don't rate Madders or Solanke that highly, but I accept that all 3 get in our best XI though I am not sure how Madders, Kulu and Kudus fit in the team together, so maybe just Solanke and Kulu, and once Kolo Muani has adjusted to the league I am not sure Solanke gets in either.
     
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  5. SarrMan

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    Just a complete horror show at the moment in every element, poor performances, poor attendances, poor atmosphere.

    it took them 6 minutes to completely unravel any positivity we took out of the PSG game!

    I was down the other end so didn’t really notice the Vicario booing at the time. Don’t agree with booing our own players in game but we’ve won 3 games at home in 11 months, at some point people are going to break.

    As to the solution, can Paratici pull out another couple of kulusevskis and pre-injuries Bentancur in January?

    Expect our usual drubbing at St James’s and then if we don’t beat Brentford, I can’t see where our next win is coming from.
     
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  6. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    The fact Frank is the third manager to break their own system to play on the front foot, after Villas-Boas and Nuno both bowed to pressure and promptly saw our goal difference take a kicking and their prospects of remaining employed stop dead, points more than one finger at the fanbase, especially considering how fractured the squad already looks compared to three months ago

    The difference is that with Villas-Boas and Nuno it did feel like some pressure was coming from above to get costly assets like Lamela or Ndombele back in the team. With Frank it isn't that, considering the pressure is to get players like Bergvall in the side who cost a fraction of what we paid for Richarlison, Solanke, Maddison, Romero etc etc
     
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  7. Citizen Kane.

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    If you look at 15 managers in 20 years and think the problem is the fans and not Daniel Levy, you need to give your head a wobble.
     
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  8. Citizen Kane.

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    You've answered your own question. Currently on paper assuming everyone is fit, I'd say our best XI is either:

    Vicario
    Porro Romero VDV Udogie
    Palhinha Bergvall
    Kulusevski Maddison RKM
    Solanke

    Or

    Vicario
    Porro Romero VDV Udogie
    Bergvall Palhinha Maddison
    Kudus Solanke RKM

    Yes, I was very critical of Son last season, but never in my wildest dreams did I think we'd repeat the same mistake of Kane's departure and not actually replace him. The current options out there are worse than an ageing Sonny.
     
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  9. Billy The Spur

    Billy The Spur Well-Known Member

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    3 home wins this year, that`s around £700 per win for the higher priced season ticket holders, the fans have every right to boo. Levy may be gone (thank god) but we are still reaping the results of decades under his miserable tenure, it remains to be seen if ENIC are intent on having an imperative complete change of approach to sporting success (I know where my money is), I suspect this club will continue to fail until new owners arrive who make every decision a football one rather than a business one.
     
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  10. BinghamSpur

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    Happy birthday!! 36? I'm sure I have t shirts as old as you...<laugh>

    Amway before the Christmas lights and football starts I went out for breakfast and it has cheered me up no end.

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  11. The Changing Man

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    Happy Birthday DH
     
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  12. Left on the Shelf

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    I'm guessing they are a tight fit ... <laugh>
     
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  13. KingHotspur

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    I think a lot of the issues boil down to players that don’t fit how TF wants to play. And this is because the squad is a mishmash (as RCL often says) of previous managers signings.

    Porro for example is a RB but his weakness is he can’t defend very well and imo isn’t the sort of full back that fits atm.
     
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  14. humanbeingincroydon

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    Our lack of any playmaking CMs has been obvious for, what, seven years or something now?

    All our CMs are either box to box or possession keepers, which is good for systems that recycle the ball out to wide areas like Conte's or Ange's - but that risks isolating anybody playing through the centre, which is what strikers tend to do

    Also causes issues where so many of our forwards prefer the ball played to feet (especially Richy, Tel, Simons) but the lack of anyone doing that front the middle third creates a lot of square pegs for round holes
     
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  15. KingHotspur

    KingHotspur Well-Known Member

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    Yeah I’d love for the club to go out and sign a play making CM. MGW would have been ideal but that fell through and as usual there was no plan b
     
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