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Who Could Be the Next Manager

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by SteveO 74, Nov 2, 2025.

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Should Tonda Eckert be given a permanent contract?

  1. Yes, immediately

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    9.1%
  2. Yes, if we beat Leicester

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    9.1%
  3. Yes, if we beat Leicester and Millwall

    14 vote(s)
    21.2%
  4. Yes, if we are unbeaten until January

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  5. No, we need an experienced manager

    3 vote(s)
    4.5%
  6. Until the end of the season, then re-assess

    31 vote(s)
    47.0%
  1. thereisonlyoneno7

    thereisonlyoneno7 Well-Known Member

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    I actually think we should give him 10 games - I don't expect to win them all, but in those 10 games we'll learn a lot on how he copes with adversity as there will be some in 10 games.
     
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  2. Saints Fan4Life

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    It's not nonsense at all. When I said it was little to no pressure, I meant on the manager. Not the players. There was no pressure, or expectation, on Eckert doing anything.

    It was the players who had to set up, and had the pressure and spotlight shining on them negatively. Not the manager.
     
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  3. EasyBreezer

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    It's the manager who sets up the team, gives instructions and leads the team. If the manager had no impact on how and when players stepped up, then there would be little point in actually having one?!
     
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  4. Piri Weepu

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    On the flipside - we have massive expectations as a club, it's Tonda's first gig as a manager (he hasn't even been coaching with this squad so has had to build relationships and respect with these players) with all of the added responsibilities and pressure of this, and the atmosphere in the stands was getting toxic. A few bad results and his big chance could've been cut short and who knew where his career would go. It's a massive moment for him and his career has been leading up to it.

    I think the most encouraging signs are the performances from the team and the shapes we've taken up. We seem tactically flexible and confident. The difference in shape between the Preston and Charlton game is chalk and cheese - this is because the manager has set them up properly and the players understand their roles.

    It is early days, but Tonda has had a blinder so far.
     
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  5. Saints Fan4Life

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    I didn't say that the manager had no impact on the players. The impact Tonda has had on them is incredible, really.

    If Tonda had come in, and failed; no-one will have blamed him at all. That's all I mean, really. He had a free hit, so to speak.
     
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  6. metalmonkey80

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    Whatever happens he's shown so far he's a step up on WS and each game that passes he's making himself harder to ignore for the role.

    I've gone for until the end of the season but only because that give both sides flexibility on how the next contract is shaped based on where we end up and gives some element of break in it.

    The next month will shape the rest of the season I think as we play teams from all over the table and we'll get some that are coming to not lose, some that will play at us etc etc and that will put to bed any lingering doubts about Tonda's tactics / flexibility / game management.
     
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  7. ChilcoSaint

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    One aspect of Tonda’s tenure which hasn’t been highlighted is how much better we have suddenly become at attacking set pieces. A goal from a free kick, and another from a corner, courtesy of Manning’s delivery and THB’s positioning, both good, basic, fundamental stuff.

    Of course we also have the fireworks from the forwards as well, but it does my old heart a power of good to see a manager tackle this part of the game as well.

    If he can make us better at defending set pieces too (see Charlton’s goal) that would be perfectly lovely.
     
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  8. thereisonlyoneno7

    thereisonlyoneno7 Well-Known Member

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    100%. For your last point, Rome. Day. Built.

    It’s happening though.

    #Tondalution.
     
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  9. Saints FC 76

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    Was incredibly against appointing him permanently when Still was sacked, but no one can deny what an amazing turnaround it’s been. As others have said, it’s getting to the point (if not already) where he has to be appointed.

    My one concern would be that he’s only ever played 5 at the back. Can’t deny we’ve been great in the last two, but it’s not my preferred formation. It’s obviously no issue when the team plays well, but when we don’t I feel like we’re more susceptible to other teams when we play a 5.

    I think a deal to the end of the season makes the most sense. Fingers crossed we don’t turn **** again when he’s appointed. Remember when Saganowski was on fire on loan, not so much after his permanent transfer.
     
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  10. StJabbo1

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    With THB spending so much time in the opposition half chasing his hattrick it could be said we were playing a back 4.
     
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  11. AberdeenSaint

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    I`m not hung up on the 5 at the back TBH - it can be 5 at the back when the opposition has the ball , but when we have the ball, the wing backs push up, and one of the CBs (THB last night) can step up into midfield. So long as its all done in a well coached manner, which it seems to be now.
     
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  12. tomw24

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    The thing is about the formation is that we're so fluid that our shape keeps changing. When Fellows is way up the pitch we turn into a back 4. Armstrong keeps coming deep which then springs Jander or Scienza to charge forwards (see the second goal last night or the third against Charlton). It makes it very hard to defend against.
     
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  13. Saints Fan4Life

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    Not that I'm particularly sticking up for SR in this regard, but I've never quite understood the 5 at the back is too defensive opinion and criticism. Been saying that all season <laugh>
     
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