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Nigel Farage in a nutshell

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  1. Pure River Slut

    Pure River Slut Well-Known Member

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    NHS England is the back room not the frontline but the Tories with a hungry US business community have wanted to run it down and create a business opportunity for years. It’ll happen if Farage gets elected with billionaire backing.
     
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  2. Coastal Dolphins

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    1. My 3 line post on a message board has fckd the country?
    2. What simple massive productivity improvements are you suggesting?
    3. Are you educated?
    4. Who is 'the left'?
    5. Trump and Farage are attempted insults - how's that?

    Your post doesn't make a lot of sense unfortunately.
     
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    Doesn't really answer my question.
     
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  4. Coastal Dolphins

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    What does opersite mean?
     
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    To the modern left i am not educated, I left school at 16 did apprenticeship in mechanical engineering up, only up to HNC level
    Some simple improvements are 5s, ie tidy and sort your work areas. A place for everything and everything in it place. Only have equipment out that you need so not wasting time looking for it.
    Why did you bring Trump and Farage up if not to insult.
     
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    I guess someone would have to be really really thick not to understand what that meant.
     
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  7. Coastal Dolphins

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    I didn't mention either of them in the 3 line message you responded to with word salad.
    All ower the shop you are.
     
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    4 of my cousins are doctors - mix of GP and specialist. All of them pushing for a less middle/top heavy NHS for years now.

    more front line police would be great, I can’t remember the last time I saw a Bobby walking the beat.
     
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    If only everything was so simple.

    Of course we need efficiency but cutting all back office support means front line staff have to do the nuts and bolts work taking them off the front line.

    Not every thing is simple as populist right wing politicians like to make out. Sadly they spout there ill thought out rubbish and many believe it.

    when challenged or put under scrutiny its not feasible or falls apart. Then the false news rubbish starts. Rinse and repeat.

    Some should watch the apprentice on Netflix. It gives an insight into Trumps thinking. Our Poundland Trump in Farage just repeats.
     
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    It's usually technological advances that mean administration/ bureaucracy can be cut. I suppose AI might be expected to further this.
    The problem with cutting administration badly or too quickly, often means, as during the pandemic, govt money was given to what was fraudsters, or is wasted.

    The problems of trying to build houses but coming up against nimby ism, or arcane planning laws. Or trying to construct a high speed train line ( which is decades late in starting) but having to spend £100m on a tunnel to protect a couple of dozen bats. The SNP in Scotland of course are banning any nuclear power stations

    These are aspects of problems that could, in theory, be solved quickly, to help growth
     
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    When my Dad had his stroke and was left seriously paralysed on one side, he needed a lot of equipment at home. A hospital style bed, special mattress, a hoist, a sling, a commode chair, wheelchair, adjustable armchair and so on.

    You'd think there would be one central department where someone could send a list saying "becs Dad needs blah blah blah" and it could all be ordered and sent to their home ready for him to come out of hospital.

    It didn't work like that. There were different people who ordered various things at various times from various places. Things arrived in dribs and drabs and we had problems like we got the bed and waited and then they realised someone hadn't ordered the mattress and stuff like that.

    During this time, my Dad was ready to leave hospital, but he was bed blocking as we didn't have all the stuff we needed to care for him at home.

    I think the NHS could be improved in places. In this example it would have saved money and got him home quicker if the process was more streamlined.
     
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  14. Northumberland Rocks

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    Reforms (probably bad use of the word) are underway with the Labour government as well as increased funding but obviously it can’t be changed overnight given it takes 5 years to train a doctor as example.

    The alternatives are Tories who have given us record nhs waiting lists or Farage and his backers who want to smash the nhs for their personal gain.

    Can the nhs be more efficient? Of course it can but those who need and use the nhs need to be very careful when hey next enter the ballot box as many will be turkeys voting for Christmas.
     
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    Full disclosure, I'm a Labour party member.

    I had to contact my GP surgery recently for an appointment, something routine nothing sinister. I was offered an appointment in three days with my own GP or an appointment that afternoon at the local health centre with a locum GP. Of course I took the latter.

    Improvements are happening, perhaps not as rapidly as we would like, but they are happening.
     
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    I’m not a Labour Party member but I and my family have had to use the nhs recently. Nothing important for me but I was seen fairly quickly and had a good plan put together and I’m now sorted.

    However, an elderly relative had a nasty accident and we were seen at A&E in the middle of the night and the service and staff were excellent and my relative is now well on the road to recovery.

    As I have said of course the nhs could be more efficient in places but when you need it it is there and this country would be heading to a dark place if Farage and his cronies were allowed to get their hands on it, when treatment would be dependent on your bank balance. Many in our country, particularly on low incomes, need to be very careful what they wish for.

    As with the last Labour government, when we had record short nhs waiting times, we need some working practice changes and investment. From what I can see that is happening.
     
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  18. Northumberland Rocks

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    What a surprise. Remind me who’s his backers? Non dom billionaires perhaps?

    As a country I believe we all need to pay a bit more tax if we want quality public services as you can’t get blood out of a stone. However I think it’s only fair those with the broadest shoulders carry more of the load.
     
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  19. becs

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    I'm struggling with the NHS at the moment.

    I've had extremely dry eyes for a long time. I mentioned it at my routine eye test in January and my optician suspects I have Sjogren's Syndrome. He said I needed to see the GP about it.

    I had a telephone consultation with the GP in February who said he didn't think I have it and the eye problem would probably get better on it's own. It got worse so I booked another telephone appointment with the GP in May who said he would run some blood tests. I had to wait until June for those due to a lack of nurse appointments. They came back fine but the eye problem was getting worse. I tried to make another appointment but the GP diaries for routine appointments were full until the end of July so I was told to ring back at mid-July when the next set of diaries were uploaded. I rang back and was given a telephone appointment with a different GP at the end of August. He agreed that it still could be Sjogren's and I needed a referral. He's done that but I'm still on the waiting list to see a specialist and nobody knows how long it will be until I get that appointment.

    In the mean time, I'm still struggling like mad with my eyes. It's not like a bad foot where you can sit with it up and rest it. It's a body part I use all day every day and obviously it's not practical wandering around with my eyes shut to rest them.
     
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    Whilst not exactly 'gaming ' the system... sometimes paying for a consultation (perhaps not too expensive) will obviously speed diagnosis up. Then if treatment is needed you can go back to the NHS, the treatment of which is probably too expensive to pay yourself?

    Although having said that dental implants cost a fortune, I had to take out a loan for mine, still paying it back.
     
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