I will be among a small minority in that, beyond idle curiosity, I'm not bothered now what happens to them, or him. I'm not even that bothered about the derby now. It really is just another game for me now. The fundamental fact is that the team there now represents a country, rather than another part of the same region, which is what once made it a derby. Any country would be bad enough mind, any random, benign country. It would still be the thing that killed the derby. But it isn't just any country. It is an odious islamic dictatorship, with an avowed loathing of the West and one of the most appalling records of murder and repression in the world . They just don't count now.
I’m sure many agree with you that at club level it is not the derby , or local interest it used to be. But can’t resist keeping the bit where if we do win we can , whilst putting football to the side , just enjoy and laugh at their reaction
Thank you. one of my best mates is from a b&w family but he had opportunity to go to roker park in the 1980s and from that 1 visit became r&w and has subsequently put thousands into the club. We have to get the kids in. Thanks to Sir Bob we have the land (I’m sure the council and club will sort a compromise on the area around the south stand as we all want the same thing) and the relative ease of extending the SOL and most importantly now the potential fanbase given the investment. Every club in the premier league, who would like to extend their stadium, would absolutely love to be in Sunderland’s position right now, particularly the Saudi owned club up the road. The club do a fantastic job with kids ticket pricing and I’m definitely not having a go at the club, but if we do extend a focus has to be getting more kids in as well as, of course, the corporate stuff. I think in Bruce we have a very clever fan (one of us) in our management team and I’m sure he and the owners will be looking at this. In terms of this thread, if we go for increasing capacity quickly whilst the Saudis are going to be bogged down with any plans they might have we will have a tremendous opportunity to bolster and secure our future fan base for years to come.
Good post, similar feelings to me tbh, I agree that the derby has been ruined by Newcastle. This derby is less about how pleased I'd be if we won and more about how much it would hurt them.
I always thought it might have been a much bigger East stand extension, making it bigger than the West /Jimmy Montgomery stand, but I could be wrong. Either way it's great that it was designed to be extended, whereas other stadiums have been extended by clagging stuff on expensively or as a hodge podge (like the Skunks).
He's become a parody of himself now, amazing how low some folk will stoop for clicks. Advertising vpn app to avoid age verification checks on porn sites? Very classy...
I've always kind of thought that about him, he has his fanboys especially in the media who have hyped him up since he first came along. He made his name at Bournemouth as a young manager who's team played nice football and rose up through the league. It did ignore he was pretty well backed financially, especially in his second stint there and his failure at Burnley is ignored. I always think it's telling that after he left Bournemouth the second time that no one came in for him for over a year. He was linked with Celtic but rejected it because of financial constraints on his coaching staff. No Spurs, Chelsea, Man U, Villa etc looked at him when he was available and they were looking for a new manager until the Mags and even then he was at best second choice after Emery. What he's done at the Mags is in honesty about what you'd expect for a club that's spent between £600m and £800m in the last 4 years. Contesting the European places and a couple of deep cup runs is success, but if he'd not achieved that you'd be calling him a flop on.tje basis of what he'd spent. When you consider that Everton were thought of as a basket case for wasting over £400m when for most of the last 20 years they've been at least a mid table EPL team, if Howe has just replicated that with the Mags spending the same he'd have a load of pressure on him as being seen as unsuccessful. In the end he's what you described. A competent manager, but not as good as he's built up to be or thinks he is.
https://not606.com/threads/christmas-already-safe-and-the-derby-….420340/#post-18746821 The dynamic for the derby is very interesting, I can honestly say I don't care about their results at all, not bothered if they win or lose, they have billions and play in Europe, who cares if they're winning or losing, what I do know is that they are checking our results constantly, we are ruining their weekends and they even say it on social media when talking to each other. That is a good dynamic to have, not caring about them but us affecting their mental health. We will be freer to judge the derby as a game of football and if we lose (hope we don't) we can just assess the situation as it truly is, a newly promoted team against billionaires, they however cannot view it that way, a loss against us could send them into a spiral, all the guff they've been talking, all the billions, little old Sunderland etc They will melt down again if they lose, Saudi will be the new Fat Ashley, the players who didn't perform will be the new Remy Cabella or Boumsong etc there's a tension around Newcastle at the minute, inflated by our performances, that is ready to burst. ----------------------------------------------------------- Personally think the talk of stadium expansion is a tad early, this club needs to establish itself again, right now it feels like we're progressing at a rate not seen for probably 25 years. Efforts should be put into getting into the schools across the north east, like a "Luke O'Nien day" in the biggest junior school in Barnard Castle or Chester-le-Street, things like that, we're on the cusp of being competitive enough with Newcastle for that to make a difference.