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Match Day Thread Manchester City V Liverpool

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  1. johnsonsbaby

    johnsonsbaby Well-Known Member

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    It's semantics really isn't it. The people using the system are part of the system and the system can't function without them. If any part of the system isn't working then the whole doesn't work. If any one out of the audio links, the cameras, the monitors or the humans working the equipment fails then the whole system fails. The only part of the system that keeps malfunctioning is the human.
     
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  2. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid
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    Interesting article on sky showing what we all know but the drop off in running stats / pressing stats and counter pressing stats is astronomical.

    Now we expected it to drop from 2 years ago as Slot has a different more methodical style which helped us preserve fitness and probably led to less injuries, but even comparing it to last season is a huge drop off.

    https://www.skysports.com/football/...r-physicality-and-intensity-between-the-lines

    Interceptions and tackles per game down from 25 to 20

    Distance coveted, we are 3rd lowest with only West Ham and Chelsea below us. Man City and Arsenal are 2 of the top 3

    Distance covered down albeit slightly

    Pressure down from around 335 per 90 to less than 280!!

    Counter pressures down from 84 to 75

    Looking at individuals
    Szobo numbers hugely down but also impacted by playing RB
    But jones minus 17, gravenverch minus 10 mac minus 8 and gakpo minus 14 are huge drops offs which are allowing teams to get up the field at us so much easily. Has to be a mixture of both tactics and fitness
     
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  3. luvgonzo

    luvgonzo Pisshead

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    You get pelted because you have a habit of talking
    at people other than to them or you're making out that you're the font of all football knowledge other than just having an opinion or to suggest how you think or feel how things may go.
     
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  4. Spurlock

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  5. saintanton

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    Disagreeing with you isn't insulting you.
     
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  6. Ivan Dobsky

    Ivan Dobsky GC Thread Terminator

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    The evidence of your eyes tells you that as well, but I did think Szobbo was being more the number 8 we bought two seasons ago, except, of course, for those games he's been shoe-horned into the RB position.
     
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  7. Zanjinho

    Zanjinho Boom!
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    True. But there is nothing wrong with the technology. A computer or screen didn't decide Vini Junior was outside the box or that Robbo was interfering with play
     
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  8. saintanton

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    I think JB's point is that the system comprises of both the technology and the people using it, and as such it is a failure.
    Imo it was always doomed, because it was talked up as being able to eradicate mistakes and injustices, and that just couldn't happen, and never will - even if it becomes more automated. A machine can detect contact but it can't judge if that contact is sufficient to make a player go down.
    I said from the start that I was against VAR because it would never be able to live up to its sales pitch, and was just going to slow everything down and take the immediacy out of the game.
    I'd still vote for scrapping it, given the opportunity.
     
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