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Off Topic Starmer/ Reeves: last man standing

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Blond Bombshell, Sep 12, 2025.

  1. rowley

    rowley Well-Known Member

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    You live in an imaginary internet world of buzz words I'm afraid. All I've done for you is present basic, economic facts. Which, by the way, all the world must adhere to.
     
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  2. Pure River Slut

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    The facts are money has gone upwards and it needs pulling back down. Prove my imaginative thinking wrong.
     
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  3. Daz

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    I've always been Labour and I'm a party member. Always thought it would get worse before it got better but it's becoming a bit ridiculous now.

    The promise not to increase taxes was a stupid pledge to make, but going after pensions might be the final straw in my membership. People have worked bloody hard to build up a pension pot to support them when they retire. If they bring in this £2k max contribution before having to pay national insurance I'll be stopping my pension contributions and sticking the equivalent in an ISA or something similar.
     
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  4. DH4

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    Lifelong Labour voter here also 40+ years. First the WFA, then mandatory digital id to spy on innocent members of the public, now this. To say I am disappointed is an understatement. Starmer is handing the keys to power to the vile Farage on a plate.
     
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  5. Sunders53

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    A big part of having to raise taxes is the welfare benefits cost, which is rising steeply. Starmer/Reeves chickened out when Labour MPs refused to back it. The fowl is coming home to roost.

    Other countries are in a similar fix. You get elected by giving benefits away, you get voted out by taking them away.

    France has a bigger problem than the UK with its state pension benefits... which it can't afford.

    Perhaps if Starmer said back the welfare cuts, or I will call a general election?

    Atm f agash/deform would walk a GE and a lot of labour MPs would lose their seats
     
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  6. Blond Bombshell

    Blond Bombshell Well-Known Member

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    Looks like Starmer could face a challenge in two weeks when the budget is released...

    BBC News - Starmer will fight attempts to replace him, allies say
    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5y0z2q2g2ro

    Those names being discussed by Labour MPs as potential candidates to displace Sir Keir include some of his closest cabinet allies, especially Wes Streeting, the health secretary, and Home Secretary Shabana Mahmood.

    Some also speculate about the ambitions of Ed Miliband, the energy secretary, and backbenchers including the former transport secretary Louise Haigh.
     
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  7. FellTop

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    Was reading that. I dont think they will wait for the local elections in May, unless he really steps up. He needs a really big moment or two. I dont see the budget being his friend though.

    He is now, according to some, the most unpopular PM since opinion polls were started. If his chancellor does somsthing like take away NI allowance on pension contributions I can see the party moving. It would be a horrible policy that would again cost businesses in a big way. At a time when unemployment has reached a 5 year high, which I daresay is down to Labour policies on NI, it would be a difficult policy to defend.

    All that said, if the alternative is Streeting I am not sure what the Labour MPs really hope to achieve
     
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  8. Blond Bombshell

    Blond Bombshell Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, they said on the bbc that the NI allowance is rippling through now, affecting jobs, 170,000 down. Cannot see any real leaders lined up so probably a false flag. However, it's a chip away at Starmers standing. He desperately needs to deliver something.
     
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    He does need to deliver!
     
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  10. Blond Bombshell

    Blond Bombshell Well-Known Member

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    According to Barry Gardiner on Newsnight, this is NO. 10 attacking Streeting... not an attack on Starmer but his team getting rid of an old Blairite Streeting.
     
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