The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Monday 10th November)

Good Morning. It's Monday 10th November, and here are the latest headlines from Elland Road

Auf Wiedersehen Farke

Daniel Farke’s tenure as Leeds United manager is hanging by a thread. Consecutive defeats to Brighton and Nottingham Forest have left the Whites perilously close to the drop zone, just one point clear of danger. The timing could scarcely be worse. A newly revived Aston Villa, hot on the back of thrashing Bournemouth 4-0 awaits the Whites after the International Break, before a punishing run against Manchester City, Chelsea, and Liverpool threatens to deepen the crisis. It’s not merely the six losses that carry alarm bells, nor even the six goals conceded in the last two outings — it’s the intangible but unmistakable loss of momentum.

Inside the club, sources hint at a split in the boardroom over Farke’s future, with his continued stay owed partly to sponsor support and a desire to avoid further turmoil after the team’s recent promotion. Yet, even loyal supporters are beginning to ask whether the German is coaxing all he can from a squad widely acknowledged to be short on depth and quality. And while the 49ers ownership group must answer for a tepid summer transfer window, there is a growing sentiment that Leeds may need a manager capable of transcending his tools — before the clock finally runs out on Daniel Farke.

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Marco Rose emerges as clear favourite for ER hot seat

Online betting site talkSPORT BET have released a tantalising list of potential successors for when the axe falls on Daniel Farke. Topping the list at 11/8 is Marco Rose, the 49-year-old former Borussia Dortmund and RB Leipzig gaffer who’s been waiting for the right opportunity since leaving Leipzig in March. Intriguingly, he reportedly held talks recently with the 49ers over the Rangers post! It would be nieve to suggest that Leeds were not part of the conversation?

Links between Rose and Leeds club run deeper than shared ambition. Red Bull, the global energy drinks giant that owns RB Leipzig (where Rose last managed) also holds a 10% stake in the Whites. On paper, it’s no more than a commercial investment, but in football, such connections often spark more substantial conversations behind closed doors.

His track record in the Red Bull football network, built on high-intensity pressing, quick transitional play, and a commitment to developing young talent, mirrors the on-field profile Leeds have often aspired to. For a club still shaping its Premier League identity, the idea of combining a tactician with proven Red Bull pedigree and an existing corporate tie-up feels like more than mere coincidence.

Hot on his heels at 3/1 is Brendan Rodgers, just off a stint with Celtic and said to be eyeing a Premier League return. Then come big-name outsiders like Steven Gerrard (8/1), Michael Carrick (14/1), and Norwegian success story Kjetil Knutsen (14/1). Even England boss Gareth Southgate makes an appearance at 20/1, worth noting he lives just outside Harrogate.

Full talkSPORT BET Odds – Next Leeds United Manager

• Marco Rose – 11/8
• Brendan Rodgers – 3/1
• Steven Gerrard – 8/1
• Michael Carrick – 14/1
• Kjetil Knutsen – 14/1
• Erik ten Hag – 16/1
• Gary O’Neil – 16/1
• Ange Postecoglou – 16/1
• Mark Robins – 16/1
• Robbie Keane – 20/1
• Ralph Hasenhuttl – 20/1
• Edin Terzic – 20/1
• Russell Martin – 20/1
• Frank Lampard – 20/1
• Gareth Southgate – 20/1
• Ole Gunnar Solskjaer – 25/1
• Sergio Conceição – 25/1
• Kevin Muscat – 25/1
• Giovanni van Bronckhorst – 25/1
• Adi Hütter – 25/1
• Derek McInnes – 25/1
• David Moyes – 33/1
• Rui Borges – 33/1
• Rui Vitória – 33/1
• Eduardo Coudet – 33/1
• Thiago Motta – 33/1
• Igor Tudor – 33/1
• Gennaro Gattuso – 33/1
• Henrik Rydström – 33/1
• Michael Skubala – 33/1
• Michael Beale – 33/1
• Ruud van Nistelrooy – 33/1
• José Luis Mendilibar – 33/1
• Pedro Martins – 33/1
• Bruno Lage – 33/1
• Carlos Carvalhal – 33/1
• Steve Clarke – 33/1
• Rob Edwards – 50/1

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Bit strange there's no big Sam on the list ......

 

So here we are again. Usual story looking for a new manager / miracle worker. Who’s gonna want to come to a club to oversee a guaranteed relegation. I knew this season would be a damp squib but thought we might have made a better fist of it. What’s the betting our dumb ass owners will bring in a manager who has no pl experience. Would be typical

 

Morning all

I don't want to sound like a smug bastard but I said 2 years ago we would achieve relegation with Farke in the Premier League.

It's time for him to go.

It's great sitting on here the day after the event and saying the squad isn't good enough for the league but we all know it's bull **** and Farke is the one who isn't good enough.

I'm not surprised an ex Red Bull manager is in the frame as I think RB are going to slowly buy us out and they have a lot of influence over the board. They are the ones who have run 4 football clubs across the world not the 49ers who own an American Football Franch. US and European sports are ran differently.

Like I said Rose is not a suprise as he managed Leipzig but I don't think he's the right man. We don't need a flair esq manager from abroad nor do I think Rogers is the guy either.. Rogers is a confidence manager. He can get results but he can do **** look at Liverpool and Leicester. We need a ugly ass, gritty English manager who is up for the fight. Steve Cooper would be my first choice but he's at Bronby. So we're probably gonna have to settle with Rose iny eyes.

 

Sadly he has shrunk as he has aged.

 

I’m a die hard Leeds fan. I want my team to be successful. If Farke goes I want the best possible manager to replace him to give us a chance of staying up.

However, I’m also a lover of irony. Part of me would piss myself if we hired Marco Rose. Recently sacked by leipzig and ex of Salzburg. He’s the German Jesse!

 

I don’t want you to either. It’s my job.

But it was a good attempt

 

It is a shame that Farke is not a Premier League manager. He seems to struggle with reading the game and being proactive. The changes he makes when we are losing are often too late and usually happen away from home, where he plays negatively.

I have supported him until this weekend, but now it is crucial that we bring in someone else. I am not sure who that person will be. I agree with Mr Wolves White that we do not want a flair manager without any Premier League experience.

I also think that the players are wondering, ‘What is he doing to us when we could be playing better?’ We are very weak away from home. It is like a different team plays at home. That part is just not making sense to me.

I also think that home games are going off the rails as well. It is only a matter of time before we get a big defeat at home. It could be Villa, or when we play Liverpool, that would be the worst. Oh, and in between that, we play Man City away. That could be double figures, especially since City have been in good form recently.

Oh, this is all dependant on Farke staying.. I think we need to replace way before January if we can get the right manager in.

 

I think Allerdyce is a busted flush now. Bit like Steve Bruce.

 

Yeaahhhhhhhhhhh we have done it yet again , we have ended yet another dismal run, unfortunately though it’s the oppositions..

if your on a poor run----- Leeds will fix it

Hi everyone

 

The only thing wrong with this post Milky is that Jesse decided to change his RB tactics and which threw the likes of Aaronson out of position and what he was asked to do, he could see that the other yank was unfit and over weight but did nothing about it and he’s having a great time in Italy again and for his country as a slimmed down version. Poor old Jesse tried to over think what made him a success and killed him mate.

On the Marco Rose thing I did mention him a couple of weeks ago along with Roger Schmidt and said that both these managers were known to the 49ers. The Rangers connection I wasn’t aware of, but it has also been widely reported that the 49ers wanted Brendan Rodgers before Farke.

Feel sorry for Daniel believe it or not but like Foxy I have thought he was out of his depth at this level. He did spend £100m+ and we seem to be worse than last season. Rumours of a split in the camp don’t help either as it seems most of the new signings are peed off as being sold a pup?

 

Morning all

Lots of coaches have no PL experience and do well, look at the Sunderland coach as an example. I didn't bother looking too deeply at the list, this is the weakest PL in years and we are starting to throw away our chance

 

Hey Doc. Not going to open old Jesse wounds but my big criticism of Marsch was not the style of play. Most Leeds fans hated it, other fans often enjoyed the basketball - but it was difficult to play against and we were always a threat unless the opposition parked the bus as we didn’t have the guile to break down set defences.

The real problem in my view was assuming that our defenders could be left that exposed in this league when the press was beaten. If it’s known that your system is susceptible to long balls where traditional full backs would be, you need good pacy defenders. We had the likes of kristenson who probably swept up nicely in the Austrian league, but were out of their depth in the PL.

So all jokes aside I don’t think redbull football is necessarily a none-starter - but you need to build from the back with it. Does this squad have that? Not sure myself.

 

Jesse would have got McKennie fit if he hadn't been sacked straight after his debut.

 

The big question is do the owners wait until January to sack DF or do it now during the break. Doing it now makes more sense unless you think he can turn it around. I dont think we get a single point without a radical tactical shift from the next 4 games, and that means he’s gone but at a sticky time?

 

I'm less bothered about the manager than I am about whether we'll do anything in January and even if we do, we'll possibly end up with a new manager whom the wrong players have just been bought for.

 

I wouldn't be too excited about Brendan Rodgers................................

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/34440168

He didn't exactly get a ringing endorsement from Celtic either.

 

If Farke was getting sacked it would be done by now however the 49ers don't do anything quickly.

 

Talks with Viera just taking a little longer than planned.

 

Oliver Glasner at Palace is showing PL experience isn’t always necessary. Slot won the league in his first season.