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Off Topic Starmer/ Reeves: last man standing

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Blond Bombshell, Sep 12, 2025.

  1. Blond Bombshell

    Blond Bombshell Well-Known Member

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    Ha’way man marra, they've had 1 year 4 months man marra... Starmer oot
     
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  2. rowley

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    Brexit did not fk the economy up. What made the biggest impact was the £500bn of spending on COVID and energy subsidies.

    For the years 2016 to 2020 the UK outperformed the EU generally in every year, and every country other than Germany and for two of the years France , though the latter very marginally. This is a very low bar mind, and even lower now.

    Post COVID it has done the same generally , but not outperformed Italy or France, although the latter mostly due to giant energy subsidies, now drawn back.

    Some things have been worse of course, some better. In 2021 and 2022 exports to the EU broke records in successive years. Small businesses have suffered at the hands some of intransigent countries' deliberate efforts to obstruct trade, despite a free trade deal with the EU.

    It could and should have been handled much better, but the BBC line of "catastrophe" does not bear scrutiny. It could have been made up by the same people who have been making Panorama recently.

    Nor was immigration the fault of Brexit. It was the fault of a useless government who turned a blind eye to it, while saying they wanted it to stop. Nothing changing there.
     
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  3. rowley

    rowley Well-Known Member

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    It's not long.

    But they had four years with Starmer as leader. Four years to work out some sort of plan. Two if those in the almost absolute certainty that they would be in power.

    That IS a long time. And the first thing they could think of doing , after all that time, was to attack pensioners, and whack billions into public sector pay packets.

    They will not recover from that.
     
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    In that short spell they have lurched from 1 mistake to another. To have such a majority, and so many tap ins to start in a positive way, yet they have made themselves seem unelectable again already. It has been an awful 20%+ of their term of office.
     
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  5. Blond Bombshell

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    The big bloody mess left by the tories will probably take two terms to sort. Let's see how they deliver the first steps to recovery in the next year or two.
     
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  6. Pure River Slut

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    An ultranationalist - Trump
    authoritarianism - Trump
    Centralised control - Trump
    Suppression of opposition - Trump
    Discriminatory - Trump
    Which part of him isn’t an aspiring fascist ?
    Who does Farage mimic?
     
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  7. Pure River Slut

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    Do you support Reforms economic plans?
     
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