Match Day Thread Hull City v Charlton

I thought he always had a threatening shot on him when he laced one to be honest. His first City goal, away at Oxford in League One during covid, was an absolute beauty of a volley on his left foot. He just wasn't good enough at the more subtle stuff; keeping the ball in tight spaces and his passing in general weren't anywhere near as good as his shooting.

 

10,000 neglecting their parental responsibilities, abusing their kids, knocking their wives about & singing “Tigers Tigers rah rah rah”

Would you give them all jobs?

 

Were Leicester in form? 5 draws in their last 6 or something.

 

Well, fair point, but we were neck and neck in the table, just like us and Charlton now, and Leicester were thought to be a 'top side'. I'm just surprised that some posters seem to be almost playing for a draw, and that was before we knew who was fit or not. I just think we're good enough for a win if we turn up again.

 

I think most think the same, just that a draw wouldn't be outrageous.

 

They certainly weren’t losing many games.

 

No Charlton aren't Real Madrid , but they've got a very good recent record , similar to ours
should be a very good game

I don't think I've come away from a game this season and thought "That was a bit boring"

 

Dave Dewberrys Hull City supporting credentials were 100% in all the time I knew him through my support of the club. He had some great ideas, raised a lot of money for the club, formed the Action Group from which the TSA sprung up. Through the Action Group he got ordinary fans into the Board meetings who could actually cast votes on club decisions. No other fans group have managed that since. He put the club in the headlines when we were bottom of the FL ladder and he himself sought out Don Robinson and went to his house to persuade him to buy into the club.
He got close to buying a stake himself by uncovering the worth of the non voting shares and persuading local businessman Paul Dixon, who later sponsored Grimsby Town, Ian Blakey, who later became a director and Don Robinson who later became chairman. Equal shares worth £10k each, all three were in, the fourth share was to be himself and as many Action Group members who could chip in to make up the other £10k. The club moved the goal posts when they realised Dewberry had the backing.
To answer your 'neglecting his parental responsibility'? I for one knew nothing what happened behind his front door at that time and I don't think many people did until Michelle's book came out some years later.
As Dave disappeared from the area a long time ago, he isn't around to put his side of the story.
I don't know it and neither do you.
But my comments stand. At the height of DD's Hull City supporting time he had more ideas and raised more cash for the club then the commercial department were doing.

 

Had some great away days with TSA.

 

I am still laughing at the thought of Brains or anyone else with him chanting Tigers Tigers Rah Rah Rah like some buffoon does.

 

You better explain who Brains is because those casting judgement wouldn't know the bloke in question if he was sat next to them on one of Simon Grays buses.

 

Nor winning many.

 

hadn’t lost since mid-August and were 4th in the league, must have been doing something right.

 

Yes, not losing games. They then lost to us. They now have 1 win in 7 and their supporters are pretty frustrated. Perspective is a funny thing! This is all getting a bit nitpicky, I merely questioned the observation that they were in form, they were performing reasonably average.

 

According to you he was neglecting his parental responsibilities before kids were even born.

“Can Dave Dewberry please report to a steward immediately, your wife has gone into labour' He waited until full time

And after

“Also remember Michelle as a toddler running up and down the terracing in the Well with Dave when it was his turn to baby sit”

“Hisfamily was his affair andwehave only heard one side”

What are your thoughts on Jimmy Savile? He raised loads for charity, millions. Have you heard his side of the allegations against him, or can you only judge him on his charity work?

It is ok to say “He was a City fan, did bits & pieces for the club but turns out he was an absolute **** to his wife & children which negates any good he did for the club at the time. There was talk of him getting a role at the club, with hindsight, I’m actually glad it didn’t happen because his heinous behaviour may well have tarnished the club’s reputation.”

With ****s like him in the crowd I’m not surprised there wasn’t 10,000 proper supporters alongside the few self proclaimed “can't do wrong” superfans.

 

Michelle blames her dad for her sister's death.. she turned against him; EXCLUSIVE APPRENTICE STAR'S FAMILY RIFT HEARTBREAK Father used to beat her until blood was pouring Then he disappeared as marriage fell apart No one has seen him for six years.
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Byline: By DEBORAH SHERWOOD Senior Writer

IT could be anyone's happy wedding snap... but look a little more closely and this picture of Apprentice winner Michelle Dewberry's family reveals a story of heartbreak and tragedy.

Michelle, then 17, is in the middle of the picture with arms folded protectively in front of her, looking away from her dad on the left. Dad David has a strange grimace on his face, his arms behind his back and he stares straight ahead as if to isolate himself from the group. Mum Glynis is as far away from him as she can be.

Nowadays Michelle, 26, is the glamorous blonde businesswoman who beat thousands of hopefuls to land a pounds 100,000 job with tycoon Sir Alan Sugar in his smash-hit reality show The Apprentice. Then she was a confused teenager still hurting from the tragic death of her older sister Fiona a year earlier.

Although Michelle said on the TV show that her dad had been an inspiration, the truth is far more complex.

Last night she revealed she had suffered years of violent beatings and mental abuse at the hands of her drunken father.

She said he hit her with a hockey stick when she was 18 after she hadn't made his tea.

"I ran down the road to a phone box in my bare feet, blood pouring down my face and my hair coming out in clumps.

"I called the police and never went back. He almost broke me but it only made me more determined to survive."

She said he head-butted her mum and tried to throttle her until Michelle managed to prise his hands off.

She also believes his violence drove her elder sister Fiona from home and led her to a life of drugs and tragic early death.

"I blame him for her death and I know mum does too. We weren't even allowed to cry at the funeral."

David Dewberry "disappeared" six years ago - abandoning his high-flying career and his family and leaving no address. Even his older brother Phil does not know where he is - and has had just three phone calls from him in the last six years.

The time before he left was full of trauma and tragedy. In 1996, a year before the picture was taken at Phil's wedding, Fiona, 19, fell to her death after a life damaged by drugs and degrading work as an escort girl.

Then Michelle's mum, Glynis, needed a brain operation. Soon after that, in March 2000 David, managing director at Flowstar Ltd, a valve import and export business based in Hull, left a letter in his office simply saying he would not be coming back.

A colleague says he turned up that day to find that David had not opened up the office as usual. He said: "We don't know where he went or what happened to him."

Brother Phil, 57, said: "Each time he rings he has said he's OK. He has made sure I can't put a trace on the number and call him back. I heard from friends he could be in Spain - or Scotland because he liked Glasgow Rangers and had some contacts there, or maybe even America. He rang about a year ago. The previous time was Christmas 2004. The man has five children and doesn't see them. I think that is strange."

Phil's understanding is that David, now 53, vanished to avoid losing half of his money to his wife in a divorce settlement.

The 26-year marriage appears to have been failing under the strain of Fiona's death.

Phil says David believed nurse Glynis, 52, had engaged an expensive barrister and was terrified of losing his hard-earned cash.

"He thought he'd have to pay a lot of legal bills and said there was no point working hard - he might as well be on the dole. He was paranoid she would get everything he worked for. He asked me to look after the cash - a lot of money, then I think he had a change of plan. He didn't give me the money and events went into free-fall."

David's ex-Flowstar colleague revealed: "When he was here he was really mean. He wouldn't buy envelopes and would put stickers on used ones so he could use them again. He even put cardboard in his shoes when they got worn.

"He'd say 'look after the pennies and the pounds will take care of themselves' and would brag about how he could live on pounds 1 a day and get by on just a meat pie, two potatoes, three carrots and two sprouts."

According to Michelle's Uncle Phil, relations between her and her dad had been strained since sister Fiona's death.

"Fiona and David were very similar and had a clash of personalities," explained Phil, a father-of-two from Hull.

"Fiona didn't get on with her dad and left home when she was about 17. And then she died falling from a tower block in Hull, it was awful. Michelle and Fiona were very close when they were at home together.

"It was all very difficult, Michelle thought if Fiona hadn't left home she would have still been alive. She says the death of Fiona inspired her. It did change her and it pushed her to succeed."

There was an open verdict at Fiona's inquest, in which it was revealed that she may have been taking amphetamines - and had been working as an escort girl.

Phil said: "The death caused a lot of friction, Glynis blamed David, it wasn't good." As the couple grew more and more apart, Michelle, say friends, began to resent her father.

Matters reached a head when Glynis had to go into hospital for a brain operation about six years ago. One friend said: "Michelle blamed her father for not going to see her mother, but David can't bear hospitals."

But when asked the secret of her success last week, Michelle answered: "My dad was a bit of a grafter, so maybe I got it from him."

Phil thinks that despite what has happened, Michelle is remembering the work ethic her father encouraged.

"Michelle looked up to her dad. She was her father's 'apprentice' when she was just a teenager and worked at his firm because he wanted her to follow in his footsteps.

"He earned a lot of money. He bought her a brand new car for her 17th birthday - most youngsters would get something second-hand. David wanted her to do well and he wanted to show her how."

Former colleagues at Flowstar believe David was earning hundreds of thousands of pounds.

He bought a four-bedroom house in Hull outright for pounds 80,000, which is still the family home and is now worth pounds 260,000.

Until The Apprentice, he was best known for spearheading a campaign in the 1980s to save his beloved Hull City Football Club.

He set up the Hull City Action Group and his younger brother Carl, 42, a Hull busker, said: "He was thinking about getting a consortium together to raise pounds 1million to take over the team. We called him Brains because he always had ideas."

In the late 60s and 70s, David was a teenage skinhead who followed Hull City. For a while he was a member of the Monte Carlo Mob, named after the youth club where they used to gather. He had a talent for rewriting pop songs into soccer chants. A fan magazine recalls how he would have thousands of copies printed out before a game, to hand out to City fans.

Carl insists David was never involved in hooliganism. "He spent one night in the police cells at York when he got caught up in some kind of minor trouble," Carl said. "He was never charged."

In another clue to Michelle's determination to succeed, Carl added: "Dave was strict with his kids. He wanted them to get on. They'd go to karate and judo classes and if he thought they hadn't done well he'd make them walk home. They were only small and it was a couple of miles."

Phil has followed Michelle's success on The Apprentice and sent his congratulations. He said: "I wonder if her dad knows about Michelle's success and great new job. Maybe he will get in touch. David wanted Michelle to do well, I hope he does know that she has."

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Can we make a Dave Dewberry thread and move the posts?

Came in here to read about tomorrow's game and met with all that.