You are not normally reasonable when you want to be proved right, and even now your bickering about stupid little things to try and get one-upmanship and you know it ,but don't want to admit it you are sniping now, you just said you'll leave me alone, but you can't, I've seen you like this loads of times, Loads will be saying he's off on a rant again, against some poor bugger you have to have the last word and always be right, well sorry it won't work with me Do as you have said leave me alone
you been trying all night to get your mad dog lefty views points in, all the political threads are mostly by you to stir the shyte , you'd think you were Starmers love child the way you go on
'Loads' will be saying ... ... loads, ffs man, there's only half a dozen people ever post on here Sorry but you really need to grow up and accept you're not broadcasting to the nation.
https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/mark-sedwill-china-spy-case-starmer-xckrtdkpn https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/keir-starmer-ample-proof-china-threat-fkdpppsrg https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/jonathan-powell-china-keir-starmer-aide-llr5fbfvk all the links from the Times into why 2 tier pressured to get the dossier dropped
I watched it, rare for me, and it’s all remarkably straightforward. All Starmer has to do is something the previous government refused to do for some reason … … simply declare China an enemy of the state and cut off all trade and contact in the hope that there’s enough evidence to convict a couple of low level nobodies. One is a teacher and the other is a Westminster paper shuffler, I wonder what vitally important secrets could they possibly be passing on to China. Perhaps there's been gossip in the staff room or tittle tattle around the water cooler. Whatever it is I'm sure it's worth wiping out £90billion worth of trade. I'm sure all the internet warriors will accept being unable to buy cheap laptops and mobile phones even if these two are found not guilty.
no mention of the ministerial pressure brought to bear or that the MI5 dossier on China threat ‘never passed to spy prosecutors’
I was instructed by you not to rant, snipe or respond to you in case loads of people got upset … … you're incapable of any kind of debate that doesn’t involve video clips, answering questions with questions and cut&paste. Take your own advice and stop sniping at me, there’s a good lad.
Not a snipe just pointing out correct facts about your version over the truth, it was MI5 documents that they failed to pass on to the appropriate bodys after ministerial interference from labour, which in turn lead to completely scenario and different findings due to hiding the truth, that is what's being looked into
So you don't think the Times newspaper is a reliable source, interesting? So what sources do you consider reliable. The times links are there to read, can you tell me why you think the times aren't reliable.
I haven't seen your link, I'm not believing a word you say about facts without a link to a reliable source (which would include The Times). Simple.
then read them the links are up there 3 of them , don't believe me if you wish, but it will not be me to look a fool if you don't Smug said he read them or are you ignoring him as well the quick facts are MI5 submitted a report into what the Chinese were up to in our telecommunications and trying to get spies into our defence industries, and collages for things like our latest drone tec. However, people were pressured to omit the MI5 report which in turn led to a different decision to that which should have been reached, so now that decision is being challenge to be reopened by M15, It's all about a deal Starmer wanted to go through, a bit like he did with Mandelson ignore reports
thank you that's rich coming from you, who said he read the report, totally missed the importance then, or don't you believe China would try and pinch all our industry secrets,What was so important for Starmer he would ignore MI5 could it be a juicy backhander, By the way thanks for tellings us what the mods told you I see your ignoring them as usual
What's pitiful is you coming here and addressing me, trying to insinuate this report was nonsense, when clearly it's much bigger that the Mandelson gaff he got called out on, he has tried to make this one disappear as well, I thought you said the mods have had a word with you and told you to stop addressing me your words not mine, if that's not rambling I don't know what is, I've never seen you so triggered, about a report you profess to have read, but obviously haven't
