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ID Cards Coming to the UK – The Thin End of the Wedge

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  1. Makemstine Roger

    Makemstine Roger Well-Known Member

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    Is the tech giant who gave Blair £257m in line for ID card ...

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    Daily Mail
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk › news › article-15140649

    Sep 28th, 2025 — Is the tech giant who gave Blair £257m in line for huge ID card contract? Government embroiled in cronyism row after revelation former PM

    BBC issues apology after facing backlash for airing false ...

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    2 days ago — ... Blair's son Euan, had secured the contract to operate the digital ID card system. The presenter posed a question to panellists about who ...


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    Sep 24th, 2025 — Far from reflecting the “papers, please” caricature of an ID card, digital ID is the foundation of a new system that brings fairness, control

    No wonder Tony Blair wants Digital IDs… when his son is ...

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    7 days ago — It correctly identifies Euan Blair's role and the family's potential interest in digital IDs, but exaggerates the financial details
     
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  2. FellTop

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    As a general point of principle ID cards are ok with me. I already have umpteen of them.

    But this seems an entirely politically timed scheme, and another timing misjudgement with Labour. This scheme will change nothing. It will cost a fortune. The idea of a digital id scheme taking 3 years to roll out is madness. I have no idea how this is an answer. If it is an answer I have no idea what the question is.

    Just another poltical white elephant to waste more money, or feed the poltical elite.
     
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  3. Sidthemackem

    Sidthemackem Newcastle United 0-1 Cambridge United Staff Member

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    You're like my dad. Paid off his mortgage, never had a loan, paid off his credit card each month. Then he went to buy a new three piece suite. The shop was doing interest-free credit, so he thinks he'll buy it with their money and promptly fails the credit check.
     
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  4. BishopSAFC

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    So hopefully like what I do he said ****um someone else can have my money.
     
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  5. Sidthemackem

    Sidthemackem Newcastle United 0-1 Cambridge United Staff Member

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    Nah. He paid cash <laugh>
     
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  6. DH4

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    No, I have never had any credit at all. I have never borrowed money from anyone at all.
     
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  7. Pure River Slut

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    ‘Secure our borders’
    ‘Secure our borders’
    ‘I’m going to do something to secure our borders’
    ‘Don’t do that’
     
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  8. ISOE II

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    That was the irony for me. We obviously have sufficient ID already. We don’t need more and for those who said were already tracked. We are in various platforms. One consolidated one (with all the security implications if breached) just allows for nefarious means to be applied too easily.
     
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  9. ISOE II

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    Oh, you haven’t got ID? Ok, send you back! People are coming in without ID now and we’re not sending them back so I don’t see how having an ID card will change anything on the illegals front and would probably stop genuine asylum seekers.
     
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    Sounds like you are partly to blame for being on the fringes?

    Joking aside, the main group of people who have proven they can’t be trusted in this country over the last 30 years or so are the political class who will have the control….
     
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  11. Daz

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    Although I'm not bothered about having an ID card, I certainly get the concerns around ID data being breached. It will probably only be a matter of time before an MP leaves a USB on a train with the full database on it.
     
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  12. BishopSAFC

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    The only people it will affect will be employers when the immigration officers come knocking.
    So it will be the biggest waste of money
     
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  13. Sunders53

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    I used to quite enjoy Facebook, but as you say whenever you bought something online, my Facebook account was bombarded with similar adverts.

    Plus the friends Facebook for my golf club, got hacked and really awful porn was being posted.

    Have been off Facebook for a year or so now and haven't missed it. Probably on here and the othet place more.
     
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    What golf club? Asking for a friend...
     
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  15. mrs em

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    Exactly I think it will help
     
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  16. CyrilleRegisLeBris

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    I agree totally with OP.

    They have used this in other countries and it has been problematic, as you're tied to the system for daily online activities, healthcare and transactions, so if it goes down then you're stuck until it's fixed. You're giving hackers a one stop shop for personal details and how secure will your data be. I seem to recall a DHSS centre in the 90's or early 20's(maybe Washington child benefit office?) losing an unsecure USB stick with thousands of people's info including bank account details on it.

    It reminds me of the recent child safety act to include face ID to prove you're over 18, when people could have simply used parental apps on a device level to stop their kids watching adult material. Implement face ID's and dress it up as 'porno ban', then later the face recognition can be brought into other things. Now another similar tactic they use the illegal immigrant excuse for this digital ID scheme. Many of the channel crossers who throw away any ID, won't be looking for legal work anyway, so it will hardly deter them.

    Going this way, before too long they'll be no hard cash, so the government can track all your assets, investments and transactions. If the government need it, they can confiscate to rebuild like in 1930's USA with gold bullion. In those situations the elite will have devised something to protect their wealth so they are untouched.

    For the people that approve of this government surveillance scheme with the 'if you have nothing to hide... spiel'.
    How many of you use VPN on these football forums?
    VPNs could be banned also if there's to be no secrecy, as people say only dodgy characters value their privacy, right?
    The government won't want anon bitcoin traders and so forth, so VPN will be on their hit list. Goodbye to your firestick football.

    Mind you, I wouldn't mind a specific company dealing with social media and forum user ID checks, as would weed out the multi-account users(used mostly for troublemaking, self arguing, or self support), all forms of social internet interaction would be better for it.
     
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  17. Smug in Boots

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    If it helped I'd be happy if firesticks and VPNs were banned ... they're illegal aren't they?
     
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  18. CyrilleRegisLeBris

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    Don't think VPN is illegal, and firesticks only illegal if you have stuff installed/your watching certain stuff for free. Someone else can answer better as I don't use them though I have been tempted, as some of the streaming match links that are posted are blocked viewing from UK.
     
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