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ID Cards Coming to the UK – The Thin End of the Wedge

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Nonsense Potter, Oct 5, 2025 at 4:20 PM.

  1. Nonsense Potter

    Nonsense Potter Well-Known Member

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    Starmer’s said ID cards will be introduced before the end of their first term — Deeply concerning!

    For me, this has nothing, literally zero, to do with immigration or “making life easier.” It’s about control. Plain and simple.

    Once ID cards are normalised, they’ll be tied into everything — digital payments, healthcare, benefits, travel, even social access. Step by step, cash disappears, anonymity disappears, and every aspect of daily life becomes traceable.

    That’s nothing more than surveillance wrapped in convenience.

    Folk will say, as they always do... “if you’ve got nothing to hide, you’ve got nothing to fear” — but that’s exactly how freedom dies: not with a bang, but with a shrug.

    Thoughts?
     
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  2. DH4

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    If this happens, I will never vote again. Not just for the Labour Party but not at all. I urge everybody to do the same. No digital id or no vote. Write to your MP and tell them that. Only thing they care about is your vote obviously. This is Orwellian and we must resist. Sad times :emoticon-0101-sadsm
     
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  3. Brainman

    Brainman Well-Known Member

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    Here’s your starter for ten.
    I have a debit card and a credit card, a passport and a driving licence, a mobile phone and a car that tells you where I’ve been, and trackers on my computer that note what I’m looking at. All my devices are listening to my conversations.
    What’s one more to me?
    The only people who should be concerned are the people who want to stay hidden.
     
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    Blond Bombshell Well-Known Member

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    Exactly, bring it on.
     
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    Exactly, we are tracked anyway.

    Anyone who doesn't think the authorities already know absolutely everything about you, or can't find everything about you if they wanted to look, is in denial.
     
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    We're not just tracked, millions of people publish personal information voluntarily on social media. Complete non-story.
     
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  7. Nonsense Potter

    Nonsense Potter Well-Known Member

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    None of the stuff you listed can be switched off by the government. An ID system can. One login, one database, one off switch for your whole life. No government should ever have that power.

    And by pure coincidence, Tony Blair’s son’s company is right there waiting to cash in when it happens.

    But aye, let’s call it “modernisation” and trust the same bunch of outright cretins who’ve never managed anything honestly or competently in their lives. What could possibly go wrong?
     
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    Nonsense Potter Well-Known Member

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    So there's the 'shrug' i referenced in my original post.
     
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    That's the old Stasi line. Only the " innocent" have anything to fear.

    There is no need whatsoever for digital ID. Not for people there isn't, but the state would love that type of easy control and surveillance.

    The notion that it would control immigration is laughable. It's Blair getting his way.

    Nothing good can possibly come from this. No state can be trusted not to abuse such power. Resist it.
     
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    The petition amused me. People against registering their personal details for an ID card willingly gave all their personal details to the petition website.
     
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    Without all the gadgets I've got that hold all my personnel details my main means of identity are passport, driving licence and national insurance number. I won't be getting any ID card
     
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    farnboromackem Well-Known Member

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    Utter bollocks
     
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    OldNewtown Well-Known Member

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    I think a slight exaggeration, but funny
    Hopefully your response was in a similar vein :emoticon-0100-smile
     
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    I have a CSCS card with my picture on it. When I first go to a new building site I have to report to the site manager who asks for your card as you wait to be inducted. Then someone else checks the CSCS card against the CSCS database whilst the site manager takes induction. I have already provided proof that I am entitled to work in the UK to my employer. When my first wage is processed HMRC are given details of how much I earned, tax and n. i are deducted and paid accordingly to HMRC which they have gladly accepted for 44 years. I have paid enough n. i to qualify for my state pension. I have never been outside of Great Britain in my 60 years on this planet. How could I possibly be an illegal immigrant?
     
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    OldNewtown Well-Known Member

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    Hmmmm
    That's what they all say...


    ...:emoticon-0140-rofl:
     
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    DH4 Well-Known Member

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    You calling me a liar?
     
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    OldNewtown Well-Known Member

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    I'm saying that you are an illegal immigrant posing as a legitimate subby.

    It was meant to be funny, but clearly I missed the target :emoticon-0102-bigsm

    Edit
    I've just been whooshed haven't I
    D'oh
     
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    farnboromackem Well-Known Member

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    I once worked in Army recruitment. The Armed Forces recruit individuals from the Commonwealth and they were unable to start training until they passed all checks and a National Insurance number was issued. There is no requirement for a national identity card to work if you hold a valid NI number.
     
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  19. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    We've always been a decent country that didn't need to be controlled too much ...

    ... I now believe we need as much control as is humanly possible.

    Shame but we've shown we can't be trusted.

    I've always existed on the fringes of everything but I no longer believe it works.
     
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    DH4 Well-Known Member

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    No I thought you were. Thanks for clarifying. No harm done :emoticon-0102-bigsm
     
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