Moved nothing mate ... can you now admit that Sudan and Cambodia with the Khmer Rouge are / were internal conflicts/ atrocities and that what is happening in Gaza is therefore very different? ... because that's the 'point' you were 'mocking' ... for some reason ...
Your original point on the discussion was nothing to do with it being internal or not though, you simply just said that it was the worst ethnic cleansing since Hitler. You only mentioned the 'internal strife' aspect of it once people pointed out how daft that was. So yeah, you did move the goal posts. Unless you still stand by the wording of this post?
Trump is always talking out of his arse, what concerns me is Zelenskyy sucking it all up like an excited child.
Anyway the mocking of the internal strife thing was more about how it came across all blasè like "oh that was just internal strife, no big deal, only over a million dead but they're from the same country so **** 'em". Nobody once said that Pol Pot didn't confine his crimes to within Cambodia; that was never the point.
The Khmer Rouge were quite good at not making it too obvious. Was probably hard to know who the bad guys were until the end.
I don't mind Corbyn, he's like a dog that just barks when the postman comes to the door, the rest of the time he's sleeping on the sofa, Sultana is not allowed on the sofa.
I do... Hitler attempted to erase the complete presence of Jewish people beyond the borders of Gemany (external) ... I'll leave it there ...
Also put up on the crime thread ... but also relevant here... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce846r2drg8o
So your stand by your original post which talks purely about ethnic cleansing and makes no mention of being beyond/confined to borders? And that what's happening in Gaza now is the worst example of that since?
Fair point, if that is how you felt it came across - but I can assure you that I would never be blasè about the deaths of thousands of innocents - no matter who is committing the atrocity ... there is never any justification.
I was referencing the acts of a 'super power' when making the point... so if that caused some confusion or misinterpretation, I hold my hands up...
Please explain how those pictures prove that there is mass starvation in Gaza? I'm asking this because this is exactly the conclusion these photos are being used to illicit (see for example below), when in fact all they show is lots of people waiting to get food. As long as said people get said food, starvation is avoided. I haven't been duped, I'm just not falling for the propaganda.
Germany only actioned the Final Solution in regions it had expanded said borders to bring under its direct or allied control. So by your metric, the Holocaust was "only a bit of internal strife".
I think you are probably arguing it from the wrong angle mate... What these pictures have always shown to me is a picture of complete chaos, no organisation or control, dog eat dog, let's just clamber over my neighbours, friends and relatives. People that are said to be hungry and weak and on death's door that faminne brings - people that respect their homeland so much they would die for it, people that are probably very strong in their religion, people that have respect for one another. Think about what I've said there for a minute mate... please log in to view this image please log in to view this image
You have been duped. You claimed that the pic of people waiting for food was staged. And I showed you the investigation into BILD’s claim that blew it out of the water. You claim that there’s no starvation in Gaza. So tell me why then so many food distribution sites have been set up, including the calamitous GHF sites that saw thousands killed. Explain to me why there have been air drops of food aid if there is no starvation. Explain to me why the aid agencies on the ground including the Red Cross, UNICEF and MSF are all saying that there is starvation ? Are they all making it up. Do you really think people are going in their hundreds and thousands to these sites to pose for picture to make Israel look bad ?
I'm not sure this ^ will be engaged from the perspective that I'm looking at it from. It's a comparison dependent on who's behind the camera.
Auschwitz was quite an efficient operation by all accounts. Quite a lot of queuing involved throughout.
Don't be silly now... ...but on that kind of note; all eventually ended well - Germany was forced back into its prescribed borders, the invaded territories got autonomy under International Law, the Jewish people their own homeland and several members of the oppressive regime were tried for War Crimes and Crimes against Humanity... Let's hope history repeats itself in regard to Palestine and Palestinian Arabs eh?
Sort of skips over the various bits which didn’t end well at all and would make your Kumbaya analogy less relevant.
