Off Topic The threat from the Far-Right

You're right but sensible centrism by it's nature is unable to deal with the excesses we now live with, best case scenario, in my opinion, is to have someone willing to make big, swift, harsh changes with a benevolent heart and once that is implemented, focus strongly on unity and kindness rather that stoking revenge or anger.

 

I'm all for stopping and sending back everybody illegally entering any country. But I certainly dont want Reform getting into power. The time has come for the centre left/right governments and lawmakers to get their heads together and come up with something radically right leaning in order to stop illegal immigration and stop far right governments from spreading across Europe. And the left leaning politicians and lawmakers are gonna have to accept that their beliefs are gonna have to take a hit in the process. Otherwise their politics are going to take a major hit if parties like Reform get into power.

 

And,what would those changes be?

 

Mass deportations, it probably also means grasping a hold of education and the promotion of normative, family values. An honest look at spending, birth rates, demographics and national identity.

 

Whiff of blood and soil there, mind

 

This is where we are, sadly, as I've persistently said, successive governments could have prevented this, but they were worried about being called names.

 

Might be where you are, fella, but it isn't where I am

 

So,where are you?

 

Somewhere other than deporting non-whites and turning women into merely gestation chambers for white children

 

?

 

What do you think mass deportation, and state coercion of 'normative family values, birth rates and demographics' means?

 

You are a very strange person, the exact reason why Charlie Kirk was shot and killed, you're loose with other peoples words. I'm not interested in debating with people like you anymore because you're a snake.

 

The irony is, is that the illegal immigrants coming for a better life are helping create a government and society here which could become very harsh on them, to a point where they may be jumping on, or forced on, the first dinghy back. I bet the latest illegal immigrant to land on a beach wishes, for his own good, that he is the last one to make it.
What I can see happening is, Reform get into power, pass popular anti-immigration laws, make a pigs ear of the rest of the running of the country. Labour or Tories get back into power, 'reluctantly' keep many of the anti-immigration laws, and things will hopefully settle down.

 

All good. You're just not brave enough to openly say what you really mean.

 

I said the N word in Croydon at an ATM, turned around and mass brawled with 3 locals, they all got knocked out. That **** looked like a Jackie Chan movie, now what?

 

Ah okay. Open racist. Fantasist too it seems

 

I asked you a question......you've given me no answer.....but to ask me a question.
As far as I can see,you're somewhere....but,not able to articulate exactly where.

 

Part of me feels like this: the left actually do not deserve quarter, they deserve open derision and defeat on the streets, roll out the tanks when we commandeer them and crush all resistance.

I know that's really bad, but they just shot a man and still openly slander and use dehumanisation techniques, the words they use are meant to demean, they're meant for people to look at you like you're worthless. When you look down on people, you don't choose to reconcile with them, that would be joining them in contempt.

If there are any good sensible centrists on here, convince me how this can be reconciled because I have lost all hope.

 

On taxation I think there’s over taxation of the wrong people and under taxation of the right people. Am I far left? We cant have services without tax though.
I’m not disagreeing. I think you’re right on us owning the must haves - I’d have transport in there these days with the cost of running a car. I also think it’s healthy for some public services to be ‘not council led’ but not ‘corporate led’ either.