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Shareholder loan converted into equity

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by WYT, Sep 9, 2025.

  1. Trumpton Tiger.

    Trumpton Tiger. Well-Known Member

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    On that score Acun Media are charging City 5% interest on £15m? Sure the Allams only charged 4% and the fans had their pitchforks out.
    Does this mean Acun is lending the club which he owns, money to 'help the cashflow' from a company he owns at 5% interest?
    Why doesn't he thrown this share issue open to the fans ( his family?) and offer us 5%? Asking for a friend who has a few spare bob in the Bank earning nothing like that.
     
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  2. TwoWrights

    TwoWrights Well-Known Member

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    In fairness the Allam's started at 4% and then upped it to 5%, plus dividends, plus group tax relief. Owners charging 1% will be few and far between. :emoticon-0138-think


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  3. PLT

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    Assuming those figures are correct (I've no idea whether they are) 4% during the years the Allams owned us was a much less competitive borrowing rate than 5% is now.
     
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  4. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator
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    The Allams charged 5% as well, they reduced it to 4% in later years. I never had any issue with them charging interest on their money, it’s just a tax efficient way of funding the club.
     
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  5. Jim the Tiger

    Jim the Tiger Well-Known Member

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    Surely not? The great leader is never going to do that to his big family club.
     
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  6. Jim the Tiger

    Jim the Tiger Well-Known Member

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    He can sell it to any member of his mafia crew. Moving numbers around on a balance sheet is very easily done.
     
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  7. Jim the Tiger

    Jim the Tiger Well-Known Member

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    Do you really need it spelling out? When central funding comes in they take it. When direct debits are collected they take it.

    You're surely not that daft that you need it spelling out for you.
     
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  8. Jim the Tiger

    Jim the Tiger Well-Known Member

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    Eh? The 'obligations' he has removed are that he is owed less than before. If you're suggesting we will be better off then you have to accept he was taking every live penny in the club account for himself until wages day when he would then transfer money back.
     
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  9. Heimdallr

    Heimdallr Well-Known Member

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    Eh? 2 months ago, you were writing all was ok at the club and that you liked the owner, after chatting with him.. now he's in the Turkish mafia, telling staff not to pay ridiculously small bills and looting the club of all it's income..

    Either you've got some inside info, more than petty cash bills not being paid, or he's done something to you personally, JTT?
     
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  10. Jim the Tiger

    Jim the Tiger Well-Known Member

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    I've said several times recently I was a fool to believe he was a decent bloke. Even spoke with the gang at Portsmouth last day of the season when I was in the directors box. The guy is a sh**house.
     
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  11. SydneyTiger14

    SydneyTiger14 Well-Known Member

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    If he does that would that not raise cash?
     
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  12. SydneyTiger14

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    Yeah dunno why I would think it improves things, you clearly know about football finance than Kieran Maguire.
     
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  13. Jim the Tiger

    Jim the Tiger Well-Known Member

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    I've laid it out really simply for you. It's either one or the other and the latter would prove he is milking the club dry and simply now agreeing to take less back each month.

    Maguire has not once stated it improves our cash flow which is the issue we have. On a balance sheet it improves things, I'm not denying that, but it means nothing unless he is selling it. We still don't have any cash and we still owe a lot of people a lot of money.
     
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  14. Gone For A Walk

    Gone For A Walk Well-Known Member

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    Jim. please stop it. What you are saying about the owner, stuff like "milking the club dry" and such crap makes literally no sense whatsoever.
     
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  15. oozkan

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    I haven't been around couple of weeks, may be more, did something happen why is Jim opposite side of Acun now?
     
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  16. Heimdallr

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    Something to do with getting sucked off by someone.
     
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  17. Heimdallr

    Heimdallr Well-Known Member

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    How is he milking the club dry if he has to put/loan hundreds of thousands a month of his/someone else's money into it to keep it running? Dont the account show that the debt has increased as salaries have increased?

    Sounds like the club/players salaries are milking him, and most other owners, dry.
     
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  18. oozkan

    oozkan Well-Known Member

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    Interesting, welcome to dark side Jim. I wonder if Kalman is supporting Acun now, that would be a shocker.
     
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  19. Amin Arrears

    Amin Arrears Well-Known Member

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    I’ll bite.

    How can he possibly be ‘milking the club dry’ when it’s losing money at a rate of £600k a week? Maybe he can breathe in a vacuum too.
     
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  20. Gone For A Walk

    Gone For A Walk Well-Known Member

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    Exactly. Except I've heard its north of a £1 million a week.
     
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