Yeah, we live in a secular post-Christian culture, but the post-Christian bit underpins not only our laws but also out collective values.
CHARLIE KIRK: Yeah, it's a great question. Thank you. So, I'm a big Second Amendment fan but I think most politicians are cowards when it comes to defending why we have a Second Amendment. This is why I would not be a good politician, or maybe I would, I don't know, because I actually speak my mind. The Second Amendment is not about hunting. I love hunting. The Second Amendment is not even about personal defense. That is important. The Second Amendment is there, God forbid, so that you can defend yourself against a tyrannical government. And if that talk scares you — "wow, that's radical, Charlie, I don't know about that" — well then, you have not really read any of the literature of our Founding Fathers. Number two, you've not read any 20th-century history. You're just living in Narnia. By the way, if you're actually living in Narnia, you would be wiser than wherever you're living, because C.S. Lewis was really smart. So I don't know what alternative universe you're living in. You just don't want to face reality that governments tend to get tyrannical and that if people need an ability to protect themselves and their communities and their families. Now, we must also be real. We must be honest with the population. Having an armed citizenry comes with a price, and that is part of liberty. Driving comes with a price. 50,000, 50,000, 50,000 people die on the road every year. That's a price. You get rid of driving, you'd have 50,000 less auto fatalities. But we have decided that the benefit of driving — speed, accessibility, mobility, having products, services — is worth the cost of 50,000 people dying on the road. So we need to be very clear that you're not going to get gun deaths to zero. It will not happen. You could significantly reduce them through having more fathers in the home, by having more armed guards in front of schools. We should have a honest and clear reductionist view of gun violence, but we should not have a utopian one. You will never live in a society when you have an armed citizenry and you won't have a single gun death. That is nonsense. It's drivel. But I am, I, I — I think it's worth it. I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational. Nobody talks like this. They live in a complete alternate universe. So then, how do you reduce? Very simple. People say, oh, Charlie, how do you stop school shootings? I don't know. How did we stop shootings at baseball games? Because we have armed guards outside of baseball games. That's why. How did we stop all the shootings at airports? We have armed guards outside of airports. How do we stop all the shootings at banks? We have armed guards outside of banks. How did we stop all the shootings at gun shows? Notice there's not a lot of mass shootings at gun shows, there's all these guns. Because everyone's armed. If our money and our sporting events and our airplanes have armed guards, why don't our children?
I don't think the full speech really changes the context that much. Here's a guy who's helped a tyrannical president come to power, arguing for citizens to have guns in case they ever need to defend themselves from a tyrannical govt. I think it's a symptom of that lack of gun control that's ultimately led to his death.
Indeed. And a lot of people would categorise Britain as being a Christian nation. Which is why I find it ironic when the same people froth about Islamic countries being underpinned by the Muslim faith.
What I find ironic is that a lot of the folk who talk about wanting this country to return to more traditional values around law, crime, family, roles of men and women, how to be a good citizen in your community etc are the same ones who froth about the traditional values that Islam teaches.
George Bernard Shaw, known at his insistence as Bernard Shaw, was an Irish playwright, critic, polemicist and political activist. His influence on Western theatre, culture and politics extended from the 1880s to his death and beyond. George Bernard Shaw said about Mohammed: "He must be called the Savior of Humanity. I believe that if a man like him were to assume the dictatorship of the modern world, he would succeed in solving its problems in a way that would bring it much-needed peace and happiness".
“As far as the common evils and accepted moral principles were concerned, no religion could have any difference, and in the spirit of tolerance and sympathy and the desire to establish peace, all of them were as one. The task of the religious leaders was to let the followers of each and every religion know the teachings of other religions, so that a spirit of fellowship could work together to spread the accepted moral principles and to fight the common evils.” Maulana Abdul Aleem Siddiqui https://www.newageislam.com/interfa...uhammad-abdul-aleem-siddiqui-al-qadri/d/12528
Yup ... if he's arguing that tighter gun laws wouldn't have made school shootings less likely or less damaging then, quite frankly, he was spouting the rhetoric of the fart pipe ...
please log in to view this image NEW YORK, September 12, 2025 – The United Nations General Assembly on Friday approved a draft resolution endorsing the New York Declaration on implementing the two-state solution and establishing an independent State of Palestine. The resolution was supported by 142 countries, while 10 voted against and 12 abstained. The State of Palestine welcomed the broad majority backing the adoption of the declaration and its annexes, describing it as a key outcome of the High-Level International Conference on The Peaceful Settlement of the Question of Palestine, co-chaired by Saudi Arabia and France. In a statement, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Expatriates praised Saudi Arabia and France for leading the conference and subsequent efforts to turn the declaration into a concrete action plan with clear political, economic, legal, and security tracks. The ministry also expressed gratitude to all countries that sponsored, supported, and voted in favor of the resolution, making the New York Declaration an official UN document. It called on member states to implement the conference outcomes, pressure Israel—the occupying power—to halt its aggression, end the use of starvation as a weapon of war, stop forced displacement, and release prisoners and hostages. The statement added that all available measures should be used to end Israel's colonial occupation, uphold the Palestinian people's legitimate rights, and ensure the two-state solution remains the only viable path to peace in the face of ongoing crimes, colonization, and aggression.
UN general assembly votes to back Hamas-free government for Palestine Compromise plan sees Arab states condemning 7 October attacks in return for clear UN support for a Palestinian state The UN general assembly has voted to back a Hamas-free government for Palestine as part of a carefully crafted compromise that sees Arab states go further in condemning its October 2023 attack on Israel in return for clear support for a Palestinian state. The aim is to show that Israel and the US are isolated in opposing a long-term solution to the Gaza war, and how countries such as Germany, a strong supporter of Israel, are backing a solution in which the Palestinian Authority governs the West Bank and Gaza. The 142-10 vote on Friday was to endorse the so-called New York declaration, a statement calling for a two-state solution, crafted by France and Saudi Arabia in July. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...y-to-back-hamas-free-government-for-palestine
There’s a quote I can’t be bothered to look up the exact wording of along the lines of “If Algeria introduced a motion the world was flat and Israel flattened it, it would be passed 140-13 with 26 abstentions”.
Charlie Kirk was a Christian Nationalist which is a particularly American brand of fascism. I can't remember who said this but it goes along the lines of, facism lost so it rebranded. He wore a vest for a reason, he knew what he was inflaming, he knew he spread hatred and disunity, so he took one in the neck. I don't care one bit
